For safety, no loaded weapons.

This is a discussion on For safety, no loaded weapons. within the Basic Gun Handling & Safety forums, part of the General Firearm Discussion category; Originally Posted by tkruf Obviously you do not trust yourself and/or your family enough around firearms, that you have this procedure. As stated, it doesn't ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkruf View Post
    Obviously you do not trust yourself and/or your family enough around firearms, that you have this procedure. As stated, it doesn't do any good to have it unloaded. You won't have time to get to it, load a magazine and rack the slide when the SHTF. A lot of ND's occur when loading and unloading a weapon. The more you do this, the more your chances go up for an ND. All firearms should be considered loaded and chambered, therefore why shouldn't they be. If you get in the "habit" of having it unloaded and magazine some place else, it's just a matter of time before your own plan backfires on you and you forget to unload the round from the chamber, or unintentionally rack one into the chamber when you don't realize it, and BOOM!

    Don't shoot yourself in the foot.
    In my post I neglected to mention that the majority of NDs happen during administrative handling of the weapons. The OP is actually increasing the likelihood of an ND with his frequent loading and unloading.
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    LAWL, when your using your clearing bucket of sand do you sweat when clearing the pistol?
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    Also let me add that when the bad guy comes through the door, are you trained to be calm in a situation like that? Who says you dont miss when putting the mag in?
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    The fear of the weapon is greater the reason for the weapon.

    They're called home invasions for a reason. But to each their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I hate to tell you this, but both were a "stupid" failure on your part. Read what you have written, both are examples of epic failure of basic semi auto operation.
    I was thinking the same thing, but I also think that Chris knows that as well. I also will NEVER understand the practive of pulling the trigger to de-cock or "to make sure it was empty."
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    I was thinking the same thing, but I also think that Chris knows that as well. I also will NEVER understand the practive of pulling the trigger to de-cock or "to make sure it was empty."
    gotta do it to clean it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    I was thinking the same thing, but I also think that Chris knows that as well. I also will NEVER understand the practive of pulling the trigger to de-cock or "to make sure it was empty."

    I agree before I disassemble the glock not only does it get multiple racks and visual checks but a finger check in chamber as well before i even think about depressing the trigger.

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    What you do with your guns is your business, but I think you need to train more and get a better understanding of your firearms.
    I carry outside the house with mag in and round in the chamber ready to fire. Inside the house, I generally have a pistol on me, mag in, no round in the chamber. I made that decision, because I have a kid in the house, and on the off chance he and I are wrestling around/whatever and it comes out of the holster, and he forgets all the times he's been told never to touch it (he's 4), I'll have that extra second to snatch it up. In the house I think I'll have plenty of time to chamber, though fumbling with a mag that's in a "secret" place would probably take too long. At night, they go in a locked digital safe, next to my bed, mag still in.
    Again, your guns, your choice, but your overall post sugests a need for more training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctsketch View Post
    gotta do it to clean it.
    but only after physically checking to make sure its unloaded...not to confirm it is unloaded...

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    I always keep my guns loaded. If the grandchildren visit I lock them in the safe, except for the one that is on my side and the wife's.
    I would imagine the a high percentage of ND happen while loading or unloading a weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatopardo View Post
    I follow two simple rules at home:
    1- No loaded weapons at all at any time.
    That means , no accidental discharges. First thing I do when i come home is to unload my weapon, alone in the bathroom, just me. A five gallon bucket full of sand helps.

    Gato Pardo
    In addition to the increased potential for ND's, What do you do if a friend (who you know to carry) comes by for a visit? Tell him he must disarm prior to entering?
    I'm still the FNG here, so I'll keep my opinions to myself, other than saying your methods sound very flawed
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    Quote Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
    but only after physically checking to make sure its unloaded...not to confirm it is unloaded...
    very true
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    You kinda did ask for his input when you clicked on the thread. That said, an unloaded weapon is an expensive rock.
    Actually no.

    He asked for mine when he posted this thread. He gave his input and I have given mine. That to me sums up the end of this discussion as far as I'm concerned.

    Of course the OP is free to respond to what I typed, as that is his choice, just as I have the choice to respond again or not. I think, most likely not. I've stated the obvious, to me anyway. I won't tell him what he can do in his house, and he can show me the same courtesy in regards to my house.

    I agree with another poster, the individual in question needs more training.

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    Just for arguments sake.....couldn't you just leave the mags in, but not charge the weapon? That way all you'd have to do is rack the slide and you are ready.... it would still make the gun incapable of a ND/AD situation....

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    Well, if we follow the logic presented in the OP, the next logical step is no weapons at all - therefore no possibility of an ND.
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