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    It only takes a moment of a lapse of safety to turn into a lifetime of tragedy.
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    I don't understand how waving it in the air can make it go off.

    I think he was waving it around and pulled the trigger.
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    A CCW doesn't make one immune to thoughtless accidents. As has been pointed out...he made several mistakes. Sorry for his family and especially for his son having to witness this. If anything can be learned from this...it is you can NEVER be too careful when weapons are concerned.
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    There have been several comments in this thread about pulling the trigger. The article says nothing about the trigger being pulled (typical). It does say something interesting: that he put the magazine in and then closed the slide, saying that this 'chambered another round'. I am missing something here and maybe someone can explain.

    1) How did the first round get chambered?
    2)Do Glocks have an issue with discharging when the slide is closed after inserting the magazine?

    I thought the mechanism of the Glock are such that it doesn't go off unless the trigger is pulled?

    Obviously the guy forgot or ignored the rules and it resulted in tragedy, but I am trying to understand how it happened, which doesn't seem to be correctly stated in the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noway2 View Post
    There have been several comments in this thread about pulling the trigger. The article says nothing about the trigger being pulled (typical). It does say something interesting: that he put the magazine in and then closed the slide, saying that this 'chambered another round'. I am missing something here and maybe someone can explain.

    1) How did the first round get chambered?
    2)Do Glocks have an issue with discharging when the slide is closed after inserting the magazine?

    I thought the mechanism of the Glock are such that it doesn't go off unless the trigger is pulled?

    Obviously the guy forgot or ignored the rules and it resulted in tragedy, but I am trying to understand how it happened, which doesn't seem to be correctly stated in the article.

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    I think what the writer is trying to say is that he previously removed the magazine and ejected a round from the chamber, thus clearing it. Then he reinserted the magazine and closed the slide, thus chambering another round - to take the place of the one he originally ejected. Didn't say he pulled the trigger while waving it around, but obviously he did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noway2 View Post
    There have been several comments in this thread about pulling the trigger. The article says nothing about the trigger being pulled (typical). It does say something interesting: that he put the magazine in and then closed the slide, saying that this 'chambered another round'. I am missing something here and maybe someone can explain.

    1) How did the first round get chambered?
    2)Do Glocks have an issue with discharging when the slide is closed after inserting the magazine?

    I thought the mechanism of the Glock are such that it doesn't go off unless the trigger is pulled?

    Obviously the guy forgot or ignored the rules and it resulted in tragedy, but I am trying to understand how it happened, which doesn't seem to be correctly stated in the article.

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    Sounds to me like he ejected the magazine and then ejected the round that was chambered, properly unloading the pistol. Where he messed up was when he put the magazine back in the gun. The magazine was likely loaded and when he closed the slide it stripped a bullet out of the magazine and into the chamber, normal operation of any semi-automatic pistol. GLOCK does not have an issue with discharging when the slide is closed, only the trigger mechanism can discharge the pistol. Now when a round is chambered by releasing the slide lock (release) with a loaded magazine in the pistol the pistol is then cocked and ready to fire. Where he messed up was not realizing he had chambered a round and was foolishly waving the pistol around and pulled the trigger.
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    A downside to a Glock can be that short trigger travel distance.
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    Sounds to me like he did'nt do his job,and the Glock did.

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    It is ashamed such a tragic outcome with what seems to be show boating. A big reason I have taught my son you can't check/clear a gun enough.

    Not something to joke about or take lightly for sure.

    As for it being a Glock I was taught never have your finger on trigger unless you intend on pulling it.

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    Wow......
    Not much to be said about this guy. I feel really bad for his wife and son though. Man prayers need to be said for them. I hate to see anyone who seemed to be a law abiding citizen accidentally take there own life. To err is human, unfortunately the error here caused fatal consequences

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    It only takes a moment of a lapse of safety to turn into a lifetime of tragedy.
    A sad story.


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    mcgyver210's comment about showboating rings true. It's ironic that he is dead because he felt some need to display a misguided attempt to show that he was in control of a firearm through "waving it around." Now he's dead for not controlling a firearm. He should have been mature enough to not engage in horseplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad Rogers View Post
    A downside to a Glock can be that short trigger travel distance.
    I would call it a good thing, not a 'downside'.
    Rules are rules...keep your finger OFF the trigger.
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    Sad but completely avoidable if the 4 laws of gun safety were followed and the user understood how his weapon worked.

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