Dumbest cop on the planet

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    Typical for a moron to do. Blame the gun regardless of the fact that he left it within the reach of a 3 year old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlr1m View Post
    Did the Judge make an incorrect ruling on the law?
    IANAL but...allowing the lawsuit to proceed seems pretty idiotic to me, especially since a lower court had already denied it.

    If the basis for suing Glock is that the the officer's pistol did not come equipped with a grip safety, well, it's pretty clear to me that Glock never offered or implied that it sells such a thing. There is no fault on the part of the manufacturer; the suit does not appear to be claiming that the pistol was defective, rather merely that it lacked a certain feature that the company never claimed was there in the first place.

    At best I could see the guy being allowed to bring suit against his department for procuring an insufficiently idiot-proof service weapon. But unless he is claiming a manufacturing defect, then Glock is clearly not part of this story. They never claimed to offer external safeties; they did not force the department to buy that model; they did not provide the weapons training to the officer; they did not put the pistol in reach of the child.

    So, yeah, I think the judge who allowed this go through is prize moron who would appear to have no problem reinstating a frivolous lawsuit against an innocent company, and my inner cynic tells me the judge probably thinks it's okay to punish an 'evil' gun company. A pox on him.
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    The only good thing about this story is that this idiot is no longer out on the streets patrolling.

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    Don't know what theory is being approached with his suit, have to assume it is a defective product design since the mfr is named. There are at least 4 elements that need to proved up to succeed in a defective design case, paraphrased from memory:

    1. The product had have been unmodified and properly maintained since the time it left the factory.
    2. The product defect was the primary cause for the incident and was being properly used.
    3. The technology of an adequate design existed at the time of its manufacture.
    4. The modification( other design) was economically reasonable.

    I think #2 improper use fails the test, there are even federal laws that stipulate maintaining a gun outside of the reach for a child.
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    I think the kid just lack the proper training to git a clean shot on his moron dad. Natural selection at it's finest.

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    The only jury that would award this guy dollar one is the one that acquitted OJ.
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    WOW, speechless

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    I replied to the news story about this on PoliceOne.com, this guy is getting no mercy from us officers all over the country on this

    this REALLY upsets me

    what an absolute idiot , so you screw up and leave your loaded pistol where your 3yo could get it in the back seat (screwup/crime #1)
    and your 3yo was UNSECURED in the back seat (screwup/crime #2)

    ....which by the way I'd bet 99% of cops have absolutely no tolerance for when seen on road...parents HAVE to take care of those kids in the car, they can't protect themselves, you should know this is the most important thing you can do before you put that vehicle in gear...get the kid secured properly maybe he hasn't had to do CPR on a young kid in a car wreck before, or seen their lifeless body being cut out of a car like a sardine...I have

    so now you're trying to save face by filing a lawsuit (redirecting blame) on the pistol's manufacturer,
    here is your idiot of the year award
    what an idiot....oh, I already said that

    what an embarrassment to us cops and gun owners everywhere , you don't deserve to have guns or your kid IMO

    I guess he needs to sue every other manufacturer of revolvers and any other semi-autos that don't have grip safeties due to their negligence and potential for damages/injury

    Glock should counter-sue him for defamation of the company based on his idiocy in violating gun safety rules and blaming the tool that was left for a 3yo to pick up, when in fact it was the tool in the driver's seat that was responsible for the whole thing
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    I have just successfully converted a Glock into a much safer firearm. I added a couple of safety features such as a grip safety and even a thumb activated safety. I think it turned out quite well.

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    this guy's Glock 21 would be made safer by getting mailed to my house and joining my other Glock 21
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    He needs to sue the maker of the child seat, the manufacturer of the vehicle, and the ammunition manufacturer also.
    The child seat didn't self restrain the kid, the vehicle manufacturer did not provide adequate shielding from bullets, and the ammunition company made a dangerous product that could get people hurt.
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    IMO the proper person got shot. The 3 year old isn't expected to know any better and I'm glad that he dodged his dad's stupidity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlr1m View Post
    I have just successfully converted a Glock into a much safer firearm. I added a couple of safety features such as a grip safety and even a thumb activated safety. I think it turned out quite well.

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    That is the prettiest and safest Glock I've ever seen! If I could buy one like that, I would.
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    I don't think this cop deserves such contumely for his actions with the gun. It is his outrageous money grubbing actions following the accident that deserve scorn.

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    Hm. Suing the manufacturer for making a model of gun that doesn't have a grip/manual safety, despite the fact that he himself purchased it. "Outrageous money-grubbing actions," is right, IMO.

    One would think his responsibility for (a) gun-proofing his own child and (b) securing his loaded firearm would both be important aspects of any such claim. I'd also like to know why he opted to acquire and use such a "dangerous" gun, too. I'm betting his gun safe was equally risky and threatening, perhaps that's why it wasn't used to secure that gun from roving 3yr old children ...
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