This is a discussion on Fess up...Accidental discharge within the Basic Gun Handling & Safety forums, part of the General Firearm Discussion category; Originally Posted by jhoff310 who has had an accidental discharge? I did lastnight. I was going thru the motions of drawing my spare weapon. (I ...
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I did forget to say welcome to the forum and I do admire stepping up and admitting. No apology for my stance on the AD issue though. Be thankful you're only getting your balls busted on an internet forum and not in this guys shoes:
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I can relate a funny (kinda) story about a negligent discharge while holstering. At the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Brunswick, GA, with a basic agent class (U.S. Customs) at the firing range. This class was nearing the stage of training where they'd be required to qualify with their weapons, and those that didn't qualify, would be washed out of the training, and lose their jobs.
One agent (who will remain nameless) accidentally/negligently shot himself in the right buttocks, while holstering his assigned pistol (S&W 6906). Bullet just grazed his butt, but he was bleeding pretty bad, and all the safety measures in place were executed, and he was treated and released to come back to class.
Later that day, when I spoke to him about the incident, which he was greatly embarrassed about of course, when he lightened up for a minute and said "Sir, At least I shot the SOB that shot me". I about rolled on the floor laughing. This gentleman went on to have a long and productive career as a U.S. Customs Special Agent.
" But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself... Baa." Col. Dave Grossman on Sheep and Sheepdogs.
Many years ago after cleaning my Bersa 22 and prior to inserting the magazine I dropped a round into the chamber and thumbed off the slide release. It is unbelievable just how loud a 22 can be when it unexpectedly fires. Had a gunsmith check it and found out it had a bad firing pin spring.
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"Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way."
Don't need to say anything, getting the sh-- scared out of you can be a good teacher.
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About 5 years ago I was deer hunting with some friends in Ohio. Being new to the state I was using a CVA muzzle loader because I didn't have a shotgun suitable for the job at the time.
My CVA was an odd duck with the safety located directly behind the trigger and to deactivate the safety you would pull it to the rear just like the trigger.
While preparing to hunt I loaded up my CVA in the pitch dark and was trying to see in the dark to put the primer into the gun. As I was holding the breech of the gun withing an inch or two of my face to help me see and with the muzzle pointed straight up in the air I had the thought to make sure the safety was on. So just as I got the primer in I attempted to check the safety by cycling it (it was pitch dark). BOOM. I cycled the trigger instead. I had that gun go off an inch from my face in total blackness. It scared the be-jeebers out of me.
Two roads diverged in a wood, and Ió
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
In my case I'm going to say the discharge was accidental but I was negligent. Took my SKS to the range a couple weeks after using it in a 3 gun shoot. I had only put about 24 rounds through it so I did not clean it before going to the range. Put the mag in pulled back the bolt and released it... Boom off it went. The round did not get fully chambered before it fired so the case expanded and wedged in the chamber had to take it to a gunsmith to get it unstuck. I don't really know but I suspect somehow the firing pin was stuck out and contacted the primer as it pushed the round into the chamber. Besides not cleaning the gun before taking it out again I was negligent in that when I released the bolt I had the gun pointing upward instead of at the berm so I launched a round into the sky.
Never fired that gun again traded it at a gun show so long ago now I don't remember on what. Now only AW is an AR15. Oh wait I think I lost that in that boating accident. That's right.
I have two stories....just not about me.
I had a friend who was in Law Enforcement and did lots of training of officers. He had finished a class and was putting the "props" away. He had been "burning both ends of the candle" for a few days and had stopped for a drink with the officers in the class. He grabbed the fully automatic weapon he had shown and class. His finger slipped and he set off a volley of bullets in his newly constructed rec room/office.
A couple of minutes later his wife had left HER bedroom and came down to see if he was alive or not. He never said if she was disappointed at the outcome.
The other person is someone very close to me. He was cleaning some hand guns after getting off a long shift. He was getting to the third one when it went off. Killing a air conditioner.
Both of these men are VERY knowledgeable about weapons and both are very cautious about how weapons are handled, but it only takes ONCE. I know that the incidents they experienced made a LASTING impression. You need to be "on your toes" no matter what you are doing with a weapon. DON'T FORGET THE BASICS....like treat EVERY weapon like it is loaded and ready to go.
For every person here saying, "This will never happen to me", it only takes one, short inattentive moment to make the same mistake. I think of that whenever I handle a gun.
One last story. "Back in the day" when I was working EMS, there was a local gun smith and dealer. My father knew him well and took all his business to him. He was working on a weapon and it accidentally discharged striking his adult daughter. She was D.R.T. (dead right there). The man was the biggest patient when we arrived. He was having a heart attack. Miserable incident. He recovered from the heart attack, but never recovered from the "accidental discharge" and gave up all contact with firearms and gave up most contact with other people. It only takes once.
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A armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one has to back it up with his life.
Ill contribute... And take full blame for this one. I had just finished installing a new target trigger on my range rifle. I'm a huge fan of light triggers.. My finger is my safety. Anyways, I had just finished installing it and was testing out the trigger pull without a mag or rnd chambered. Had a buddy in the room working with me.. He felt the trigger a few times himself and handed it bac to me. I proceeded to place a loaded mag back in the rifle without chambering a round as I was about to walk right out the door to my own range... My buddy asked to see the rifle and I agreed. He picks up the rifle, pulls the charging handle( chambering a round) and pulls the trigger just as he had 5 minutes prior except this time, it was loaded.. Now both of us are no newbie to this rifle or firearms for that matter. I trusted my buddy, he spent a decade as a submariner and spent plenty of time on boarding teams. Luckily it was only us two in the shop and the round discharged through the floor and under the shop. Lesson learned, it's my rifle, those we my rounds.. Trust nothing..
Over the holidays a friend of mine had an ND at his house. Shot himself in the foot with a .45 JHP. This is a guy that has been around guns his whole life and is a gun safety advocate. When he told me he did this I didn't believe it until I saw him and later the pictures.
Huge blow to the ego...This can happen to anybody! We all make mistakes no matter how perfect we think we are!
Added: When he did this he didn't notice for about 10-20 seconds. He was standing, cleared (or thought he cleared) the weapon and pulled the trigger towards the floor. After the shot he took a few steps backwards to see where the round had hit and realized he had shot himself only when he saw it (no feel). Very little blood from entry or exit, doc says the wound was cauterized due to the close range. He was lucky enough not to hit any bones.