Sobering story about AD with 12 gauge shotgun

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    Sobering story about AD with 12 gauge shotgun

    The gentleman who this story is about/by joined another forum I'm a member of and so I became aware of his story. I read the whole thing, but wasn't brave enough to click the links for the images of the wound prior to his medical treatment.

    Warning: There is one graphic image at the bottom of the story. It follows the paragraph that contains a few lines of red text, so stop scrolling if you won't be able to handle it.

    How I Blew Off a Leg With a 12 Gauge Shotgun, Part One


    Keywords: accidental discharge, negligent discharge, shotgun, jarcy

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    Not too smart!
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    I still don't understand how the gun went off, he says he was observing standard gun safety, his finger was not on the trigger, so how did it go bang? Nasty result but better than dying.

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    He said he's not sure but thinks it slipped in his sweaty hand and he reflexively grabbed for the pistol grip with all fingers.
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    Smart's got nothing to do with it. A momentary slip and it could happen to anyone. The best any of us can do is be hyper vigilant and safety minded and hope that Murphy is messing with someone else.
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    Answers a lot of questions about good home defense weapons and knockout power. Not that anyone had any reasonable questions.
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    Bad luck all around, but it happens.
    My grandfather shot his arm off with a shotgun.
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    That was incredibly horrifying.

    A stark reminder to always adhere to these;

    Rule #1 - A gun is loaded - always. (even if just checked clear!)

    Rule #2 - NEVER point a gun at anything you do not wish to DESTROY

    Rule #3 - Keep finger off trigger until actually intending to shoot.

    Rule #4 - Know your target - and what is beyond.

    He already knew #1.

    #2 is where he was woefully negligent.
    #3 is also a boo-boo on this incident.
    #4 is up there as well.
    The weapon of choice also, IMHO had something to do with where he shot himself, with the pistol grip attached.
    Glad he lived to tell his story.
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    A momentary slip and it could happen to anyone.
    The second rule of firearm safety:

    2. Do not point your gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.

    In this case, the owner swept himself with the muzzle. So let's look at the other rules.

    1. Consider all guns to be loaded.
    The gun was loaded, and he knew it was loaded. Proceed to rule 2.

    3. Do not put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
    Aha! So here is the classic pattern - not just one safety rule, but he broke two of them. Numbers 2 and 3. Most firearm accidents are the result of breaking more than one rule. Had he kept the gun pointed in a safe direction, he'd have been OK. If he'd kept his finger out of the trigger guard he'd have been OK. Breaking both rules allowed this to happen.

    4. Know your target and be sure of your backstop.
    Didn't apply here, as it was an AD, but again, he was his own backstop, so... Sorry.

    I have to disagree with Paramedic70002. If you can't follow the rules of firearm safety, then get rid of your guns. They will be a greater threat to you than a help. As we see in this story, if you can't follow the rules, you risk blowing your leg off. Right now, I'm getting ready to clean my shotgun. The first thing I'll do is make sure it's empty and safe to handle. I'll spend a minute doing this, being redundant and checking multiple times. Not just once, but over and over. Ridiculously.

    While I clean the gun, the muzzle will be in a safe direction, never pointed at me or anything at risk downrange.

    Well that's dumb - you know the gun is empty, so why worry?
    Because you layer the safety rules. One on top of the other. Each additional rule, if followed, adds safety. Here, in this story, the owner would have been far better off if he had not owned a gun. These are not toys, not playthings, and if you don't treat them with respect, well...
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    He messed up he owned up now he has to live with the consequences. I hope he as much as practical puts this behind him and gets on with his life.
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    Wow! I feel bad for the guy.

    Things that I learned from this or that were reaffirmed by this:

    1. Don't go out to confront someone when you don't have to.
    2. Training, training, training
    3. Observe the 4 rules
    4. Secure your firearm before doing anything else
    5. NEVER try to catch a falling firearm
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    IF HE"S NOT GONNA SHOOT SOMEBODY OVER SOME TOOLS,Then he should have just called 911 and reported description of Subject and Vehicle without alerting the Thug.
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    I'm impressed that he had the balls to own up to it. FWIW, I've been brandished at by angry ranchers numerous times, and this was while I was on the clock! Some places (AZ and NM come to mind) this is how they keep illegals from straight up murdering them. After a while, it applies to everyone. Ruby Arizona comes to mind in this kind of scenario.
    They think they don't need firearms because they never have needed them.

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    guy needs a lot of help...mental, though i have doubts about the whole story. no, didn't look at the pictures, don't care. the story reads like a writing assignment at an asylum

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    Ow. Well, a good story to keep in mind. A second of carelessness with a gun, or any other tool, can lead to a lifetime of regrets.
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