Shooting Ranges Can Be A Scary Place
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June 22nd, 2009 11:55 PM
Shooting Ranges Can Be A Scary Place
I love shooting but I will tell you I have seem more than a few unsafe events while shooting at public ranges within the last year . Here are just a few and each of these incidents I talked with the shooter or parents. I think it is every shooter responsibility to tact-fully point out unsafe conditions! We only had one problem where the local LEO came out to the range to resolve the issue ( I go to the range 2 -3 times a month). Most of the time we have a good time and meet new friends!
- Dad and young boy (6-8 yrs old) shooting unsupervised, boy was shooting 22lr rifle from the hip. Multiple shooters on the range where fanned.
- Adult went down range to place target while other where hot on the firing line, his excuse was everyone was on the other side (4 tgts down within the berms) and he was only going to put his target at the 30 yard line on a 100 yard range. This guy did not see what he did wrong even after the range went cold and multiple shooters talked with him.
- This one take the cake (LEO;s were called to the range) On a Saturday when the range is most crowded a man and his wife went down range with a rake and shovel to collect the spent lead in the berm. No one could shoot until the law escorted them off the range.
- With the shortage of Brass I have had many people collecting brass on the firing line while shooting is in progress, weaving in an out of the shooters on the firing line.
Well I just wanted to see what others have encounter at the range.
Note: My kids go the the range with me on a regular basis (11, 15 yrs old) and we have a great time. I Always teach safe weapons handling and safety first. They are both great shots!
Enjoy Your Day on the Firing Line!
June 23rd, 2009 12:13 AM
Yes...well....it shouldn't be happening, but public ranges are, well.....public. You just seem to get the wrong sampling of the public at large when you go to a public shooting range. Why I like my club membership, and it's worth it. I still on occasion hit a public range on a state managed wildlife area, but I go early enough that the idgets are showing up as soon as I'm done and leaving. That way I don't have to be around to watch or go downrange to get my targets with the hair on the back of my neck standing up, or wondering how good of a shot I am with the 9mm at 100yds. Knuckleheads--------they're everywhere, and most of the time, they're everywhere you want to be. What sort of things have I seen at the public range? I seem to have forgotten on purpose.
June 23rd, 2009 12:19 AM
I belong to a private range now...too many unsafe things and too crowded on public ranges...not worth the cheaper shooting.
Our range does NOT tolerate any unsafe practice...you may be warned over a minor incident. Anything else will get you suspended for months...or permanently.
No "Ben Brothers Allowed"...'would have been, could have been, should have been...they jump on things immediately.
Out of 450 members, about 250 of them have earned their RSO Cert...just helps to make things that much safer.
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June 23rd, 2009 12:19 AM
Once saw a guy pull out a full auto shotgun....I was leaving as he started firing.
The target stand disappeared, who uses Dragons breath and shredder in the same mag?
I know not what this "overkill" means.
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June 23rd, 2009 02:10 AM
Yup, very scary places. The most frequent mistake I see is people not stopping fire during a cease fire or resuming fire too soon. When I can, I prefer to go to the backwoods firing range (forest service).
June 23rd, 2009 02:22 AM
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Ditto on the private range. My club range is gated and fenced, but unfortunately, we have a small minority of slob members who don't care about the rules. When we catch 'em, we boot 'em, but we can't get them all. I wish we could.
Originally Posted by retsupt99
The problems caused by these low-lifes really becomes apparent during the spring and fall range clean-up days. We've found trees cut down by gunfire, target stands destroyed, all sorts of crap, like full cans of paint, used for targets, warming stoves tipped over and huge amounts of just general trash strewn around.
Their favorite pastime seems to be blasting the Porta-Potties. I keep hoping that one of their scumbag buddies is inside when one of these morons shoots a charging Porta-Potty!
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June 23rd, 2009 03:31 AM
Heres a good one, shooter from out of town (and new reloader) using his revolver on range. Multiple shots FTF and revolver jamming up all night, not one range officer approached him to check what the problem was.
He gave his revolver to unlicensed person (a woman), first shot, projectile didnt line up or got jammed in barrel, cylinder exploded and went through 4 shooting booths (lucky no one was at the line).
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June 23rd, 2009 07:53 AM
Firing Range Risks
While in the USAF I was stationed in Belgium. We were required to go through yearly qualifications with the M-16. One year we had some new arrivals on base who were qualifying for the first time using an "actual" M-16. At one point during the orientation the range officer mentions the usual gun range safety precautions, "always keep the gun pointed downrange", "always treat the gun as if it were loaded", etc. One of the commands he gave was that if you were having problems with your M-16, keep it pointed downrange and raise your left hand and hold the rifle with your right arm.
Originally Posted by PastorPack
When it was time fire standing we had one new arrival have a "malfunction" when he was firing the M-16.
When the line of people were through firing this new idiot turns around holding the M16 level towards EVERYONE behind him looking for a range official!!! You can bet that one of the range officials raced towards this guy and grabbed the M-16 out of his hands. They proceeded to explain that he could could have shot somebody in the event the M-16 had discharged.
Even in the military there are people who just don't get it!!!
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June 23rd, 2009 09:18 AM
I remember the scariest event I ever had at the range involved a female constable from a neighboring county I was teaching the Texas CHL class to back in 1998; She was the only student I had that morning, and had brought her late husbands' Colt gold cup to qualify with, claiming that this weapon was going to be her future duty gun. I had advised against it, because it was obvious to me the gun had been set up for bullseye shooting, the trigger broke probably around 2lbs and was not suitable at all for carry or duty work.
Anyway, I instructed her to holster the pistol while I went down range to staple up a target for her to begin the qualifier; just after I landed the first staple in the target, I heard a loud BOOM behind me, and noticed the dirt fly exactly right between my planted feet. After dropping everything (including the stuff in my pants!) I turned to see this woman with the gold cup in hand, pointing at the ground towards me, a mortified look on her face.
I walked over to her calmly and took the gun away and unloaded it, and asked her what the &&^%$# she was doing. She explained that she thought when I went down range it was time for her to load the pistol, which she did and when the slide closed, the gun went off. I asked her where her trigger finger was when this happened, to which she replied "well on the trigger of course".......
Needless to say, I flunked her and returned her money on the spot.....Then I went to wally world to get some new jeans.
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June 23rd, 2009 09:37 AM
Here in Canada we only have private clubs. Unless you go out to the back woods to shoot. If you go to a club and not a member you have to be with someone from that club. You must be supervised by the individual at all times.
public ranges are, well.....public.
The club that I belong to has a lot of rules. You can not shoot pistol on the rifle range, but you can shoot rifle on the pistol range. you can not shoot pistol unless there is more then two individual present. No pistols in holsters, no slinging rifles, your firearms must be in the safety area with the action open when not engaging targets that means you do not have positive control of your firearms at all times(ex I leave my firearm on a table go down range 400yards and the rifle is left alone... I can go on all day. But there are less then 100 members, so the chances of running into some one else are really slim to none.
June 23rd, 2009 01:27 PM
I am retired and I am able to set my own schedule with the part-time work I do, so I am able to get to the range when it first opens on a weekday. There is usually only a couple of other people there and at tiems I am the only one. Saying that, I avoid the place like the plague on the weekend. Too many people and more chances for there to be a problem. The owners are very strict about proper safety procedures but they still can't be watching everyone 100% of the time.
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June 29th, 2009 10:59 PM
I go to Seattle to visit an old Coast Guard buddy of mine, as I usually do every fall, and we go pheasant hunting. We also go to a local range where he is a member and shoot the handguns. I was shooting my S&W snubby and he and his son were shooting the Henry Lever Action .22. All was well, until some Navy guys and one girl showed up with the rented S&W .500!!! Evidently, the ammo is very pricey and they bought just 5 rounds. I could hear everything they were saying, they were right next to me....on my right side. Now, remember, these are Navy personnel, on liberty, supposedly trained in firearms safety. The first guy, loaded up a round, took aim and fired one. Of course, even with ear protection, the report was loud, and about "thumped" your chest from the concussion. Next guy shoots, same thing....bunch of giggling, commotion....oooooohs and ahhhhhhhhhs. They give the weapon to the girl, she loads and gets ready. I could see out of the corner of my eye, that the guys were playing macho man, and each trying to give her instruction on how to hold it, etc. They told her to be prepared for a hell of a recoil. Well,......it did......and I saw the revolver go back past her head, out of her hand, and through the plate glass window, where the range safety personnel can watch the range!!!! My buddy and I just dropped our jaws, and looked at each other, rolling our eyes. Needless to say, that could have been way more dangerous.....and the RSO came in, and politely told them to leave, and that they had had enough fun for the day.
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June 29th, 2009 11:09 PM
Just because they are in the Navy don't assume they are trained in firearm safety. When I was in boot camp we spent a day at the range firing 22 handguns.
Originally Posted by AZ Desertrat
Then on board the submarine we had what they called familiarization firing. Usually we did it at the range, at targets 15 feet away. One time that stands in my mind was when we actually did it from the missile deck of the USS George Washington SS(B)N 598. Nobody missed what they were aiming at as it was the pacific ocean. We had to get the fam fire done before we did missile testing at Coco Beach Florida so we did it before we went thru the panama canal.
So as you can see, the majority of navy personnel don't necessarily get a lot of familiarization with firearms.
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June 29th, 2009 11:34 PM
I know what ya mean.....in USCG boot, we just qualified, and that is about all the shooting we got until we got onboard our first ship.....of course, I was a Radioman 2nd Class, and did not shoot much anyway.
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July 12th, 2009 10:06 PM
No excuses for that kind of behavior....
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