The truth will set you free and maybe more

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    All I can say is keep on fighting! I am going through the same thing with a company that I gave 28 years of my life to. When it comes down to it,we used to be a name(they actually new who you were) and and a number, now we are just a number. These companys could care less as they can hire someone else for less money. Experience and loyality dont mean S### any more. All they care about is $$$$$$$$$$$$
    You are just a couple years older then I am and I'm not going down without a fight. My wife is 46 and has had 3 heart caths one was actually a stint put inside another stint because it clogged! Thoughts and prayers are with you and you family as I know what you are going through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    A couple of quick points.

    1) The Americans with Disabilities Act was amended and strengthened considerably to the further benefit of employees in Nov. 2008. George Bush signed the amended ADA- now the AADA -- shortly before he left office.

    The EEOC has recently published final rules implementing the new law. It is now much stronger than before.

    Making use of that law might be a tough road with no assurance of success, but I would certainly visit with an employment law specialist, make inquiries with your state's equivalent of the EEOC, and with the EEOC itself. Present provisions are much more favorable for you then they were a couple of years back.

    If I understand things correctly, the victim of discrimination based on the AADA does not necessarily need his own lawyer. That is what the EEOC and state equivalent are for.

    2) Now to the heart issue. I don't know which valve (or perhaps more than one) are causing you a problem, nor do I know a thing about your general health. With the caveat that I do not know you, I want to tell you that my wife had a mitral valve replacement almost 20 years ago. She has done very very very well since.

    The surgery is of course understandably a scary thing to contemplate, but know that these things get done successfully day in and day out with an excellent track record of success.
    Its mitral valve Pm sent

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    Sorry to hear about all of this. Hang in there and vent all you like here.

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    Make sure that if he terminates you, you get something in writing--nothing verbal...to include his reasons for firing you. Document your absences and your reasons for missing work--would hate to have him claim you missed work for some other reasons. Have copies of your doctor/ER visits...get copies of your time sheets for as long back as you can get them (showing your work ethic)....

    As others have stated....seek out a labor lawyer...
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    It's really a shame what employers have become. I was working for a company where the VP had me doing all sorts of unethical things to my guys. I finally quit and took a huge pay cut just to get away.
    I am sorry to hear about your health and job situation. As said, contact lawyers. My prayers are with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Wing View Post
    Its mitral valve Pm sent
    My wife too, had a mitral valve replaced about 4 yrs. ago. She has had absolutely no issues and is a very physically active woman. She typically walks on the treadmill for 1 hr./day at max. elevation and 4.5 mph's. In addition, she spends an hour at the local Curves and another hour at Zumba dance.
    She received a bovine replacement valve which the cardio-vascular surgeon said would need to be replaced in 10-12 yrs. However, I have talked to people like Hopyard who have had a replacement valve for 20 yrs. and still going strong. The thing is, to get leaky valves replaced as soon as possible to prevent irreversible damage to the heart muscle due to lower blood volume. We were told, the longer one waits, the poorer the long range outcome.
    We too live in FL. and I believe we have the advantage of having some of the best heart doctors in the nation. My prayers are with you and your family.

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    Well on the 4th of July I called the owner of the shop ( its closed for 4th ).

    I called for status about my job and I starting getting the run a round .

    I asked do I have a job or not. He said no hes was going to keep the other Guy he hired .

    So I turned in my keys all with uniforms on Tue.

    The owner today said well you could have kept staying on a unpaid leave and I maybe could bring you back if this new guy

    dosnt work out. Is this man out of his mind or am I crazy .

    I already had to go along with him for one week on un paid leave.

    Please tell me what you think how many working folks can go along with a un paid leave with no other money comeing in.

    Well I now have zero comeing in like last week but I have filed for unemployment.

    I just had a feeling he is trying to string me along

    I did call my attorney today also .

    I let ya know this really stinks

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    If you haven't consulted a labor lawyer already, then I don't know what else to say to you. Good luck to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ianator View Post
    It's really a shame what employers have become. I was working for a company where the VP had me doing all sorts of unethical things to my guys. I finally quit and took a huge pay cut just to get away.
    I am sorry to hear about your health and job situation. As said, contact lawyers. My prayers are with you.

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    Well I had one lawyer get back with me this afternoon

    Those that know florida there is a lawyer / bank / drug store on every block

    Well this one told I dont have a case because I have not worked there a year ( I worked there 11 & a half months )

    The employer did not have enough employess to for me to be granted the family leave act . They have less than 20.

    I didnt get a warm fuzzy about our 4 to 5 min phone call with this one .

    He did say that I may have a chace about the over time pay with me working over 80 hours a week .

    I am going to keep looking I still have my divorce lawyer on hire and he will be checking on some issuses.

    I have time along with looking for work to do more research.
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    You need to (IMMEDIATELY) get with your doctor and file for (unpaid) medical leave under the Family Medical Leave Act. It's only 12 weeks, but if they fire you, you have documentation that you are ill and fired after THIRTY years? ANY judge will see this is not right immediately and it will be up to your employer to PROVE that your were fired for "something else." I see the car business hasn't changed much in the last 20 years. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcselby1 View Post
    You need to (IMMEDIATELY) get with your doctor and file for (unpaid) medical leave under the Family Medical Leave Act. It's only 12 weeks, but if they fire you, you have documentation that you are ill and fired after THIRTY years? ANY judge will see this is not right immediately and it will be up to your employer to PROVE that your were fired for "something else." I see the car business hasn't changed much in the last 20 years. Good luck.
    Thanks I guess the family leave act you must have over 50 employess they dont .

    I have filed with EEOC today we will see where that will go.

    I have 30 years in this biz I have only worked for tis Guy for 11and half months .

    Well in the 30 years plus I only had two employers that where good .

    I have had some that I had to take to court to get paid ( worthless checks)

    Its my own fault I should have got out a long time ago .

    I thought this was a good guy and I did every thing right gave him 110 % no question .

    I have came away with one thing I will never go back in this biz .

    Very sad there are a lot of folks like me that work very hard and get treated like scum.

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    My mom had valve replacement surgery in 1975. She lived until 2002 and passed away because she couldn't stop smoking and in the end couldn't breathe. She said the surgery and recovery were tough but she was with us for 27 years more. We were blessed! Good luck with your surgery.

    As far as your job situation, I've seen numerous people have health issues and get fired after a short period of time. Florida has very little protection for us employees. I also suggest you see another lawyer.
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    My best friend is also an auto-mechanic at a dealership and has told me so many similar stories it isn't even funny. They don't care about their technician employees at all. They don't pay them worth a darn, work them ridiculous hours, and give them no benefits either. My friend had not missed a day of work in like 10 years. Then one day he hurt his back, at work no less. So he calls in the next day and the boss told him he'd need a doctor's excuse. So being almost unable to walk, he had to get out of bed and go see a doctor which cost him about twice as much as he would have actually made that day had he gone to work, just so that he could miss two days of work without getting fired. I told him I wouldn't have taken that answer. I would have told the boss that there would be no doctor's excuse and if he wanted to press the issue then I'd file for worker's comp or something like that. But that is just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adric22 View Post
    My best friend is also an auto-mechanic at a dealership and has told me so many similar stories it isn't even funny. They don't care about their technician employees at all. They don't pay them worth a darn, work them ridiculous hours, and give them no benefits either. My friend had not missed a day of work in like 10 years. Then one day he hurt his back, at work no less. So he calls in the next day and the boss told him he'd need a doctor's excuse. So being almost unable to walk, he had to get out of bed and go see a doctor which cost him about twice as much as he would have actually made that day had he gone to work, just so that he could miss two days of work without getting fired. I told him I wouldn't have taken that answer. I would have told the boss that there would be no doctor's excuse and if he wanted to press the issue then I'd file for worker's comp or something like that. But that is just me.
    No offense pal, but I just love it when people give advice which includes I would have said this or I would have done that, especially when your livelyhood and that of your family are not at stake. But that is just me. Peace.

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    It was being treated like this that got Unions started,Businesses cry about how Unions have made life hell for them,and in some cases I think there was abuse,but the bottom line they couldn't fire you without good cause
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