Sacred order - do you know it?

Sacred order - do you know it?

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    Sacred order - do you know it?

    How many are familiar with the sacred order concept?

    The sacred order is the order of priorities in a survival situation that contribute toward the possibility of coming thru an event in ok shape. The order in listed in priority below.

    1) Shelter
    2) Water
    3) Fire
    4) Food

    Shelter is the single most important thing. More people die from exposure in the outdoors than any other cause. Even the well-equipped misjudge or panic, though sometimes well equipped, die from exposure to the elements.

    Water is important to a functioning body and mind. Dehydrate and bad things happen. It is far better to drink untreated water than to not drink at all.

    Fire is an important tool for warmth, water purification, cooking, and making tools. Fire also has a deeply comforting psychological aspect for humans.

    Food. Who doesn't like to eat. Survival situations increase demands on the body. Significantly. Those calories need to be replenished.
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    That brings back memories of USAF Survival School back in 1980. I remember the instructor telling us that without water most people would last only three days and you can go without food for twenty-one days (some of us have reserves that will last longer). We had ¼ of a parachute but with just a little ingenuity it was amazing how many warm and dry shelters you could construct with available materials and just a knife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    That brings back memories of USAF Survival School back in 1980. I remember the instructor telling us that without water most people would last only three days and you can go without food for twenty-one days (some of us have reserves that will last longer). We had ¼ of a parachute but with just a little ingenuity it was amazing how many warm and dry shelters you could construct with available materials and just a knife.
    I went through USAF Survival School a couple of years after you did and can attest to what you said! I almost lost a toe to frostbite (I went through in Feb) we had to make our own snowshoes LOL! I wonder if it has changed much since I went through?
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    3 Minutes Without Air
    3 Hours Without Shelter
    3 Days Without Water
    3 Weeks Without Food
    3 Years Without Mother-In-Law
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    Master Sergeant I went through Navy SERE and we got a half of a parachute but it was held at Warner springs and the same hungry guys had beat that dirt for ten years. The word got out and ants even walked around Warner springs instead of across it. I have a smile on my face remembering what they taught me not so much on how they taught me. We heard survival school for the Air Force was living without a pool and golf course is that true? May God protect and care for the Para Rescue troops.

    Merry Christmas to you. The first thing I want is a good strong heavy survival knife with it shelter becomes easier. Water is next and fire just feels good. Food is the tricky one the eating something that looks a lot like another edible plant you are down for the count. Make sure you know what you are eating or pass it by. And never ever let your dog run free near a survival school.
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    1) Shelter
    2) Water
    3) Fire
    4) Food
    The order of priority's is entirely dependent on the circumstances at hand.

    For instance, on a summer night, water might be immediately more important than shelter.
    You can go a long way without food, but not long without water.

    Shelter is good, but only if you intend to stay in one place. Otherwise you improvise and use what you have.

    Fire is great, but not necessarily needed.

    Now change it to a cold winter night with snow on the ground.
    First shelter. Then fire. Then water. Then food.




    If any one circumstance changes, then the priority's change.

    And if we are being evasive, then lighting a fire might be very risky. Even so, there are ways to minimize detection.
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    If any one circumstance changes, then the priority's change.<<<~~~


    "Now change it to a cold winter night with snow on the ground.
    First shelter. Then fire. Then water. Then food."



    Ditto but,:
    If...you are soaking wet and the weather is COLD (as above) then FIRE could easily nab the #1 top spot because avoiding impending more immediate hypothermia would be the numero uno concern taking priority over even shelter, then water, & lastly food.

    Which is WHY depending on where you are, the weather conditions, and what time of year it is...ideally you need at least one way to make fire quickly.

    Due to the fact that some of slower and more primitive means of making fire could have you either dead or "as good as" before that fire ever happens.
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    That's why it important to have at least one of these in every pack...

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    You can get them on Ebay cheap. There is no excuse not to have one.
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    Why I have several ways to quickly start a fire in ANY condition and some great tinder is worth it's weight IMO (cotton balls soaked in Vaseline are not very heavy and burn quite awhile and pretty hot as well)
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    I've used that trick myself. I've carried many a film can full of vaselined cotton balls over the years.

    Now I just use Trioxane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceoky View Post
    Why I have several ways to quickly start a fire in ANY condition and some great tinder is worth it's weight IMO (cotton balls soaked in Vaseline are not very heavy and burn quite awhile and pretty hot as well)
    I used to carry cotton balls soaked in paraffin in a couple of 35MM film cans a lot less messy than Vaseline. We used to have wax impregnated cotton earplugs on the airplane, made great fire starters also.
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    I never saw the advantage of DRYER LINT over Cotton Balls.
    Yes, I know that Dryer Lint is FREE but, Cotton Balls are not exactly made out of GOLD and the 429 of them that you are not treating with Vaseline have many other uses around the house.

    I like to splurge and spend the .49 Cents and buy the generic Cotton Balls.
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    Vaseline covered cotton balls has always been a reliable option. I used to stock the military trioxane until I saw Weber grills come out with the lighter cubes. They will light wet.

    Search Amazon for Weber 7417 Lighter Cubes. Get a 24 pack for $3.50.

    Great for getting the briquettes hot in a charcoal chimney or for emerg. fire starters.

    A good knife is the number one tool I hope to have should I be back in a survival situation. My "seal-pup" is a worthy companion!
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    I find this thread extremely interesting as I have never been in the service (I regret that the older I get) so as a novice, I have to ask. What is that thing hot guns is holding?? Is it a flint or something? I love the cotton ball tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCIE33560 View Post
    I find this thread extremely interesting as I have never been in the service (I regret that the older I get) so as a novice, I have to ask. What is that thing hot guns is holding?? Is it a flint or something? I love the cotton ball tip.
    Ferrocerium rod. Some come with Magnesium and some are just a Ferro rod. You do not always need the magnesium.
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