Food Storage

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    Food Storage

    I've got a bunch of rice, beans and spaghetti to store. They're all packaged in plastic but I see people using "food grade" buckets to store things like this.

    -Are buckets necessary or can anything airtight work?

    -If buckets are best, are food grade buckets necessary or can I just get some regular 5gal from somewhere like tractor supply?

    -any other options?

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    I properly packaged I would think any bucket would do. I have a food saver machine that vacuum seals items for long term storage and freezing, in your case I would remove from the packaging and vacuum seal the items and store in any container.
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    The most important thing is to have an air tight seal around the bucket. Look for buckets with good gaskets.

    If you store things in a dry environment and you have something to remove some of the oxygen from the bucket before you seal it up food will keep for a long time.
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    Another consideration is keeping bugs and rodents from them in "bad times" (that is one major reason folks use buckets IMO)
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    For storing food items use DOT food grade containers whether that be buckets or drums. If you have Mormon friends and the Mormon church has a food warehouse nearby here's what you do. Get 6 or 7 friends together to buy bulk items.

    Repackage bulk items in #10 cans or 5 gallon buckets using oxygen absorbers. At the Mormon warehouse near me it takes 6 folks as there are 6 steps to fill and seal a #10 can. Bring cash in the correct amount as some don't like to/can't make change.
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    If you have the rice in vacuum sealed bags, food-grade buckets aren't necessary; any unused bucket will do.

    The purpose of the bucket it to further protect the food from light and pests...

    If the rice in plastic bags is not vacuum sealed, then you might want to rethink your approach or put an oxygen absorber in the bags before you put the bags in a bucket.

    If you are putting the rice directly in the bucket, you should use a food-grade bucket.
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    You can buy Oxygen Absorbers in vaccuum sealed plastic on ebay and they have a color change indicator with the package to let you know that they are fresh absorbers.

    Get all of your food containers ready and quickly take the absorbers that you will need and hurry up and seal the remainder in a glass Mason jar.

    If you think you'll need one absorber per container then put in two.

    It's cheap insurance because some Oxygen will eventually leach through all plastic containers.

    Use heavy MYLAR bags inside plastic containers if possible.

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    Check around your local deli's and restaurants. Food grade buckets may be had for a couple of dollars or free.
    Just need to wash them out before using.
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    Food Storage

    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    You can buy Oxygen Absorbers in vaccuum sealed plastic on ebay and they have a color change indicator with the package to let you know that they are fresh absorbers.

    Get all of your food containers ready and quickly take the absorbers that you will need and hurry up and seal the remainder in a glass Mason jar.

    If you think you'll need one absorber per container then put in two.

    It's cheap insurance because some Oxygen will eventually leach through all plastic containers.

    Use heavy MYLAR bags inside plastic containers if possible.

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    +1 on the Mylar bags.

    To store rice I:

    1. get a 6 gallon Mylar bag.
    2. put the bag in a 5 gallon bucket.
    3. Fill bag with rice.
    4. Put oxygen absorber in bag
    5. Seal most of bag using an iron on the linen setting and ironing the Mylar shut (I use a level to sandwich the Mylar between it and the iron)
    6. Put vacuum cleaner hose in remaining opening. Suck out excess air.
    7. Seal remaining opening.
    8. Seal bucket.

    This should keep rice for 25 years +, as long as it is stored in a cool place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kapnketel View Post
    I properly packaged I would think any bucket would do. I have a food saver machine that vacuum seals items for long term storage and freezing, in your case I would remove from the packaging and vacuum seal the items and store in any container.
    This^^^^^^

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    Some of you folks may want to store various foodstuffs like rice, beans, etc. on a smaller scale. Great! Do that.

    Buy Large Mouth Glass Mason Canning Jars and use those with Oxygen Absorbers and just keep the jars in a dark place like a spare closet or the basement.

    Pop an Oxygen Absorber in the bottom of the jar fill the jar to the top with rice, beans, whatever...fill it to the top lay on another absorber and screw the lid on tight. You are DONE!

    If you do not have a dark spot to store the jars then wrap them in Aluminum foil to make them light proof and you can always re-purpose that foil later on also.

    Cases of new glass jars are not cheap BUT, think of how valuable canning jars in "like new" perfect condition will be at some future SHTF time.
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    Even if you live in a small apartment you can put up a case or two of glass jars - of beans, rice, noodles, oatmeal, sugar, etc. in sealed glass jars and you can stretch that out for weeks and at least stay alive holed up for much longer than you might believe.
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    Thanks all. At the moment I only have about 30lbs of white rice, 5lbs of brown rice (which I'd really rather have for health reasons but doesn't store as long), and 8-10lbs of beans. I've also got some pasta to store and will be buying some more of this stuff in the coming weeks. I think my best bet for now is gonna be the mylar bags in regular buckets and to get some canning jars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJR202 View Post
    Thanks all. At the moment I only have about 30lbs of white rice, 5lbs of brown rice (which I'd really rather have for health reasons but doesn't store as long), and 8-10lbs of beans. I've also got some pasta to store and will be buying some more of this stuff in the coming weeks. I think my best bet for now is gonna be the mylar bags in regular buckets and to get some canning jars.
    If you are going the Mylar bag route, here is where I got mine.

    http://mylarpro.com/

    I wouldn't bother getting the oxygen absorbers. They come in one vacuum sealed pack, so if you open, you have to use them all at once. Just get some hand warmers. They are the exact same thing.
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