disadvantage or advantage?
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First a little background. Been homeschooled all ...
May 24th, 2010 09:33 AM
disadvantage or advantage?
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First a little background. Been homeschooled all my life and live in a quite area. I guess this is a disadvantage and advantage. a disadvantage because I'm not really framilur with what would be out of place activity wise in a city enviroment. Something might look out of place but be perfectly normal. On the other hand it could be a advantage because since I'm not used to the setting I will be more aware of everything around me, if that makes sense
Just thought I'd share this and see what everyones thoughts/comments are.
May 24th, 2010 09:33 AM
May 24th, 2010 11:30 AM
being naive might be a disadvantage....but being "paranoid" might help.
May 24th, 2010 11:49 AM
You live in a quiet area now, are you going to move to the city?
How large a city?
Are you talking about where you are now?
If it's unfamiliar territory.. keep your head on a swivel... watch watch watch... blend in and observe... By observing, you willl learn what the locale's norms are...
While you have just gotten your CCW... your only job with it is to defend yourself... not look for hinky behavior on the part of others... unless it is directed at you...
learn by observation.
May 28th, 2010 11:04 PM
Don't do it. Stay rural, stay away from the city, keep your simple life, and if/when you have children, please make sure that they attend a proper school that teaches grammar and spelling.
May 29th, 2010 12:00 AM
I dunno...the Poconos is only 2 hrs from NYC...right on rt 80....it's an easy spot for city criminals to hit or pass thru. Not to mention there are quite a few nice resorts there they would attract a variety of people...including many New Yorkers...& possibly people to prey on them. SKi resort....brings in a variety of smalltime of criminals.
So....I would say more interaction with all types of people would be helpful. You can spend time in NYC...it's not very dangerous in most areas anymore and you could do alot of people watching. The more 'common' areas of Central Park are safe and also a good place to observe.
Of course, you wont be able to carry there...but I worked there, in Central Park, unarmed for yrs and also still go in for the theatre, etc when I'm back home. Anything can happen anywhere, but I really had more good experiences with people than bad in New York, including the Bronx.
Just walk and act with authority & keep up your situational awareness.
I dont know what you do for a living but if you got a job or part time job at one of the resorts you'd also experience a variety of people....heh, it wont necessarily be pleasant but it would be good exposure.
Fortune favors the bold.
Freedom doesn't mean safe, it means free.
The thing about "defense" is that it has practically nothing to do with guns. (As passed on by CCW9MM)
May 29th, 2010 12:07 AM
Welcome, Chris - I expect that you'll learn a lot here. It's likely that being homeschooled you probably spent a fair part of your education doing research of your own rather than having everything predigested for you. CCWFlaRuger is right about the grammar and spelling, however: they do tell people a lot about who you are. I would encourage you to invest time and effort in your presentation, lest folks get the wrong idea.
And welcome to CCWFlaRuger, too! +1 on staying rural (I've tried both and heartily recommend staying away from the city). But I take issue with 'attend a proper school'. Sure, Chris muffed his spelling and grammar (as I'm sure I have here - I assuage my guilt by calling it 'colloquialism'). But he's on the right track - he's asking questions of folks who may be able to help, and he's concerned about his safety. Let's be kind to him! And please remember that homeschooled students as a group score at about the 85th percentile on standardized tests like the SAT. On average, homeschooling parents produce better students (extra variables abound, of course, but we're playing 'sweeping generalization' here). If Chris is as diligent about educating his kids as he is in coming here and asking questions, he'll probably do OK.
May 29th, 2010 12:19 AM
Advantage or disadvantage in relation to what, would be my question. Everyone has their own individual experiences. Being in the military I get to be exposed to a lot of different people. Some of them have been homeschooled and are from rural areas. These Soldiers excel in some areas, but admittedly are lacking in others such as social skills. I am not saying they dont function or they arent accepted, it just takes a little longer. If it was up to me and I had a choice, I would live in a rural environment. If you are looking to broaden your horizons then head into the city and keep your eyes peeled. There is a lot to be learned by watching people.
May 29th, 2010 11:16 AM
Stay rural, you'll live longer.
"That I cannot do."
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May 29th, 2010 11:24 AM
...and a better life. Sure, it's handy to have Starbucks on two corners of every intersection, but you can grind and brew a better cup at home (and sure, you're making less money, but you ain't payin' for lattes, either).
Originally Posted by retsupt99
And I know whereof I speak: I've lived in the big city and am now in Appalachia.
May 29th, 2010 02:14 PM
Rural and homeschooled.
Definitely an advantage. If you can take the initiative and research, study and reason the necessaries of life.
Trust in God and keep your powder dry
"A heavily armed citizenry is not about overthrowing the government; it is about preventing the government from overthrowing liberty. A people stripped of their right of self defense is defenseless against their own government." -source
May 30th, 2010 04:47 PM
Green Acres is the place for me or ?
Unless you're going to the city, there's not much point to your question. If you are going to the city, read some crime prevention tips specific to your destination. Though crime can and does happen any time and anywhere - there are places one learns not to go.
Lacking being street wise is a huge disadvantage if one spends much time - especially after hours - in the city.
Generally, where a lot of people are spending money is fairly well patrolled and policed. Because there is so much of it, most of the crime there is bad on bad. But if one spends enough time being oblivious, then one becomes a victim of bumping and grabbing or pocket slitting or pickpocketing. Learning how to carry oneself and ones belongings is the best protection there.
And where you see graffitti is dangerous. Any place away from people that is not familiar is dangerous. The further you get from the crowds - you could become a target by a territorial predator or by an opportunistic criminal. Or a random victim (mushroom) of bad on bad.
People say SA (situational awareness) is key to avoiding being attacked - and it is. But if you're going to a strange environment, preparation and planning ahead will go a long way to keeping you safe. So be open to the experience. Learn, go and carry yourself with confidence.
Americans understood the right of self-preservation as permitting a citizen to repel force by force
when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
-Blackstone’s Commentaries 145–146, n. 42 (1803) in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)
May 30th, 2010 05:31 PM
I honestly think it is a huge disadvantage. I'm a city boy, always have been and always will be. I grew up the minority in some very ruff neighborhoods which sucked at the time but it taught me a lot about real life and what some people are capable of.
I had to learn how to not show fear when I was alone and I'm walking towards a group of 10 people. Crossing the road was not an option because then they where going to mess with you, that showed fear and they where going to make you pay for it. So I learned to just keep my head high and walk between them. A couple of head nods and a wat'up is all that ever really happened.
Street smarts are learned over time in the real world. I wish you the best, Be safe and welcome to DC.
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May 30th, 2010 08:15 PM
Originally Posted by CCWFlaRuger
You may now carry on with your absurd non-directional bantering.
May 30th, 2010 08:53 PM
I was assigned once and lived around the rural areas of SW VA. Glad I got reassigned and moved back to the city last January. Never been happier. And there are more things to go to do in the city. Not knocking rural areas but I would rather go to where I feel I am more comfortable blending in and if you decide to live in a city, learn which areas are reputable and which areas are bad news.
June 3rd, 2010 09:35 PM
I agree with the others posts that say to give this person a break. Even people that know proper grammar/spelling make mistakes. My wife and I are starting to home-school our kids. We both have advanced college degrees and 4.0 GPAs. When done properly, homeschooling has a multitude of advantages and nearly zero dis-advantages. We can provide one-on-one instruction of better quality than the public school system could ever dream of. We can tailor classes exactly to our kids interests and areas of special interest and strengths/weaknesses. Our kids can socialize with other kids and be in sports. We also can take vacation any time of year and show our kids where history happened, instead of just looking at pictures in books! We don't have to worry about the many topics that are being indoctrinated into kids minds in public schools, including socialism and an increasing anti-God mindset. These advantages are only the beginning, so if you think home-schooling is bad, you may be getting the wrong information from the media. (surprise, surprise)
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