Trying to fight while carrying.
This is a discussion on Trying to fight while carrying. within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by SIGguy229
If someone is acting in an aggressive manner towards me...I will work towards a retreat (especially if it's more than one)....the ...
May 26th, 2010 05:21 PM
Originally Posted by SIGguy229
Fortune favors the bold.
Freedom doesn't mean safe, it means free.
The thing about "defense" is that it has practically nothing to do with guns. (As passed on by CCW9MM)
May 26th, 2010 10:27 PM
Thanks for the responses. I already had my own ideas of how I would react, but its nice to hear other opinions. The thing that gave me the idea for this topic was the other topic called: "I don't need to know self defense, I have a gun." Of course I don't agree that a gun is the only defense. I'm not sure why so many commented: "I haven't been in a fight since 7th, 9th, 12th grade." ?For the record, I haven't been in a fight since 8th grade. I don't see why that is relevant here? I think we all try to be "mellow" and avoid confrontations. You have to be when carrying. I'm talking about those aggressors that we all know are out there. It only takes one to start a fight. ("it takes 2" is a lie) I had a total stranger walk up to me in the mall and punch me for no reason. I walked away, but some people will corner you and force a fight. I always try to retreat first if possible. Worse case scenario, if I was cornered/outnumbered in a secluded area I might be forced to draw just to be able to retreat.
May 26th, 2010 11:20 PM
I am a big fan of the (hands up) "hey man...I don't want no trouble" followed by a quick non telegraphed jab to face when necessary. Some call it preemptive SD. This of course is preceeded by the "I'm sorry, excuse me" (walk away). If they choose to follow that's on them.
A swift kick in the nuts will piss your attacker off way before it hurts him. Try to keep this in mind "put something hard in something soft" aka finger in eye or key in eye, fist in throat.
Blading and practicing support side techniques is something to work on when training. Personally my lead leg front push kick or lead side verticle punch is a favorite type of technique in that situation.
Look at Bruce Lee and some JKD. From what I understand, correct me if I'm wrong. JKD practicioners put the strong side forward, however with a gun that isn't a good idea, BUT the techniques are very effective, practice them the support side and you have a good start.
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May 27th, 2010 11:09 AM
Not a female, not small framed, but if I can't run, I'm not fighting hadn to hand. Either I talk them down, or when they continue to escalate I draw.
Originally Posted by friesepferd
May 27th, 2010 11:11 AM
Yep, if you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!
Originally Posted by Jason Storm
If you have to fight, fight like your life depends on it, because it may!
May 27th, 2010 08:18 PM
"Never pick a fight with an old man. If he's too old to take the ass-kicking, he'll just shoot you."
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May 28th, 2010 05:24 AM
I'm the same way.
Originally Posted by Jason Storm
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May 28th, 2010 08:12 AM
Do force on force training and work it out.
This isn't rocket science. This isn't exotic or difficult.
This is hours of work with a partner, some safety gear and a blue/red gun or an airsoft weapon - and the acceptance that your current plan may not work, and you will have to learn, adapt and maybe completely abandon things that don't produce results.
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May 28th, 2010 10:23 AM
+1 OC is before hands on in the force continuum outline.
Originally Posted by Harryball
3. Hands on
One more step and it's on!
June 2nd, 2010 09:32 PM
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June 2nd, 2010 10:27 PM
And each year older you get is another point on the disparity of force scale.
Originally Posted by retsupt99
June 2nd, 2010 10:52 PM
Actually, the TWO usually go hand in hand.
Originally Posted by romansten9
The "REAL" world truth is that most SD situations will at least require some HtH; even if it's only to deflect the initial attack long enough for you to grab your gun.
A BG can easily cover 20-25 feet before you can get out your gun and fire.
Most BG's are NOT going to let you see a weapon until they are within the "effective" range needed to use it.
So (at the very least), "some" Hth training is a VERY good idea.
June 2nd, 2010 11:03 PM
While I agree with most herein, depending on circumstances, I do not agree with the following. "A BG can easily cover 20-25 feet before you can get out your gun and fire."
Originally Posted by tcox4freedom
June 3rd, 2010 03:16 PM
Yep thats me............................... too old for an ass-kicking. Beware of the Judge.
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