Legal aspects of shooting unarmed man in public restroom - long

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    thats classic...i love it...

    i shot the guys who kept their hands behind them because i thought they were showing off and found them a threat to my masculinity and possible sexual assault predators...

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    Quote Originally Posted by razor02097 View Post
    +1. I think we are being trolled here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metallic View Post
    +1. I think we are being trolled here.
    sure we are...but do you have something better to do?...if nothing else its mental exercise...

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    Since BB was referred here by another member--it is possible....It's like Gecko45 all over again.....dumping his gun to go H2H....even if the other guy is out to do him harm....so many issues with this one....I find myself typing and erasing...and then walking away......but, it's like a train wreck....you want to see what happens next...
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    morbid curiosity?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
    morbid curiosity?....
    Yep...
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Hopyard....
    "But worse, you clearly don't understand that you have an obligation to use the minimum amount of force necessary to extricate yourself from a situation."

    BINGO!
    Exactly...he can use force if he needs to 'escape' the restroom or whatever....just not lethal force. Isnt this related to 'disparity of force?'


    And when you read that post...it shows that he doesnt care about opp, ability, jeopardy...because he says that once the dead man is found with his genitals hanging out....no one else can dispute his story that he was being threatened with sexual abuse...."dead men tell no tales' and the jury will have to believe whatever he says.

    I really have a problem with this....this is illegal, immoral (IMO), and dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metallic View Post
    +1. I think we are being trolled here.

    No...you're not.

    Unfortunately, if you didnt read the original thread linked to the other forum, it's been deleted (others were not nearly as restrained as all of you, incl. me.)

    At least most of you are giving constructive responses.

    He is well known on the other forum...but this did come as surprise to many. Mostly he just seemed homophobic...but there is more to it than that apparently.

    I mean...is this something you would admit to? "When the other guys in high school made fun of me for not changing in the locker room, I would retaliate by plastering their lockers with notes saying they were gay. That stopped them pretty fast. They all started showering at home after that."

    I have asked and the mods over there have bookmarked it so that it's not permanently deleted...just no longer public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    Since BB was referred here by another member--it is possible....It's like Gecko45 all over again.....dumping his gun to go H2H....even if the other guy is out to do him harm....so many issues with this one....I find myself typing and erasing...and then walking away......but, it's like a train wreck....you want to see what happens next...

    Believe me, you're giving him too much credit...no way up to the level of Gecko 45.
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    You know unfortunatly even a well known and once honerable forum member can turn into a troll if his/her pride gets the best of him/her...

    Great thing about being here is the mods care enough to you if you get out of line
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    It was my hope he would understand that his plan to lie to a jury was wrong, period.

    And that there is a difference between force and lethal force and that he was not legally justified in shooting a man that 'exposed himself' to BB, or if another man accidentally 'saw BB exposed.' Unfortunately, he still feels he's justified, but I appreciate peoples' very constructive and restrained responses.

    Apparently he has a fiance...but also must still be a virgin since he doesnt believe in sex except for procreation. Not that there's anything wrong with remaining a virgin until marriage, but like with Catholic priests, I wonder if this, for some, channels 'energy' into unhealthy directions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by razor02097 View Post
    You know unfortunatly even a well known and once honerable forum member can turn into a troll if his/her pride gets the best of him/her...

    Great thing about being here is the mods care enough to you if you get out of line
    Honestly, I think his continued participation in this forum would be a good thing...on other subjects besides himself of course. He may yet gain a broader understanding of gun law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9MMare View Post
    Honestly, I think his continued participation in this forum would be a good thing...on other subjects besides himself of course. He may yet gain a broader understanding of gun law.
    ...and see how "normal" people deal with issues, read the law...instead of withdrawing into his version of reality...
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    Personally, I couldn't care less what happens to "BB."

    I have advised twice that if he doesn't want to believe everyone here, he should go try his "legal theory" out on a criminal trial attorney and get his advice since he'll likely be hiring one anyway to defend him one day.

    I suspect he already knows what that meeting would go like, so instead he continues to return here to gin up crap with us.

    As far as I'm concerned this thread has deteriorated into a waste of bandwidth.

    Quote Originally Posted by 9MMare
    Honestly, I think his continued participation in this forum would be a good thing...on other subjects besides himself of course. He may yet gain a broader understanding of gun law.
    Personally, I think he's being purposely obtuse and is more along the line of a troll... An annoyance.
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    Agreed with bark'n

    Hopefully BB can abide by The forum rules. If not he will undoubtedly end up like the rest of the failed trolls.
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