Robbery on campus this morning

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    Robbery on campus this morning

    On UF campus.

    Strong arm robbery reported on UF campus | Gainesville.com

    1) Why do people put themselves in these situations?

    2) Do you think the frequency of these instances would happen if UF was not a gun-free zone?

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    Strong arm robbery reported on UF campus

    By Karen Voyles
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    Published: Monday, May 31, 2010 at 2:05 p.m.
    Last Modified: Monday, May 31, 2010 at 2:05 p.m.
    A strong arm robbery was reported Monday on the University of Florida campus.


    According to police, the male victim notified them at about 8 a.m. that he had been robbed at 3 a.m. near Norman Hall and Southwest 13th Street.

    The victim told police he was walking through the pedestrian tunnel when he noticed three other males who were also in the tunnel. The victim said that while he was leaving the tunnel, he was hit in the back of the head and fell to the ground and then his attackers took his possessions and fled.

    According to police, the victim did not notice any weapons on the trio and his only injury was the blow to the head.

    The only description the victim was able to give police was the men were white and had been wearing dark clothing.

    Anyone with information about the incident is encouraged to contact the UF Police at 392-1111.
    There's no law against being out at 3 a.m., but you won't normally find me out walking at that time.

    And waiting until 8 a.m. to notify the police? I wonder why.

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    Like they say, nothing good happens after midnight.
    Sounds a bit suspicious. Would a gun have made a difference? I doubt it. Having a gun doesn't always stop a robbery, and the vic made no mention of the assailants having one.
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    Probably intoxicated and got rolled (if that is still the term). Too embarrassed to go to the police.
    Gun laws are not a factor in this type of thing because there was no gun. It's not like the BG's were ignoring the gun law and the GG sufferred for observing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grady View Post
    There's no law against being out at 3 a.m., but you won't normally find me out walking at that time.

    And waiting until 8 a.m. to notify the police? I wonder why.
    Grady, I'm with you as to the time of night. But it is a college campus, and sleep is something you do in class, not at night.

    And 5 hours to report? Something wrong there, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Like they say, nothing good happens after midnight.
    Are you joking? The kid is in college, the party doesn't START until 11:30.

    I go to a college in NC. They charge an arm and a leg for parking, so many of the students park their cars on the street in the neighborhood next to campus. I used to live in that neighborhood. There are at least 3 or 4 armed robberies a month on campus or just off of campus. A couple of times the robbers shot the unarmed victim (not fatally) AFTER they stole their laptop/wallet/etc.

    I cannot think of a situation on the street where I would readily pull my gun and used it when I already had a gun in my face, but around campus I would do it in a second (if they let us carry). Those boys don't play.

    Of course they target students coming off of campus for a variety of reasons. They probably have a car, they might have a laptop, etc. But I would say one major reason is they DEFINITELY do not have a gun, in fact they don't even have a little knife, because that could get them in trouble on campus too. I think if someone is deemed responsible enough by their state to carry concealed elsewhere, they should certainly be allowed to do so on a college campus. Hell, aren't those college kids supposed to be the smart ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by funklab View Post
    are you joking? The kid is in college, the party doesn't start until 11:30.

    I go to a college in nc. They charge an arm and a leg for parking, so many of the students park their cars on the street in the neighborhood next to campus. I used to live in that neighborhood. There are at least 3 or 4 armed robberies a month on campus or just off of campus. A couple of times the robbers shot the unarmed victim (not fatally) after they stole their laptop/wallet/etc.

    I cannot think of a situation on the street where i would readily pull my gun and used it when i already had a gun in my face, but around campus i would do it in a second (if they let us carry). Those boys don't play.

    Of course they target students coming off of campus for a variety of reasons. They probably have a car, they might have a laptop, etc. But i would say one major reason is they definitely do not have a gun, in fact they don't even have a little knife, because that could get them in trouble on campus too. I think if someone is deemed responsible enough by their state to carry concealed elsewhere, they should certainly be allowed to do so on a college campus. Hell, aren't those college kids supposed to be the smart ones?
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    Why would any sane person with a lick of self-preservation sense walk into a tunnel at night when he can see three men loitering in it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRudolph View Post
    Why would any sane person with a lick of self-preservation sense walk into a tunnel at night when he can see three men loitering in it?
    He didn't know he had a "KICK ME" sign on his back? Or should that be "PICK ME?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by funklab View Post
    Are you joking? The kid is in college, the party doesn't START until 11:30.

    I go to a college in NC. They charge an arm and a leg for parking, so many of the students park their cars on the street in the neighborhood next to campus. I used to live in that neighborhood. There are at least 3 or 4 armed robberies a month on campus or just off of campus. A couple of times the robbers shot the unarmed victim (not fatally) AFTER they stole their laptop/wallet/etc.

    I cannot think of a situation on the street where I would readily pull my gun and used it when I already had a gun in my face, but around campus I would do it in a second (if they let us carry). Those boys don't play.

    Of course they target students coming off of campus for a variety of reasons. They probably have a car, they might have a laptop, etc. But I would say one major reason is they DEFINITELY do not have a gun, in fact they don't even have a little knife, because that could get them in trouble on campus too. I think if someone is deemed responsible enough by their state to carry concealed elsewhere, they should certainly be allowed to do so on a college campus. Hell, aren't those college kids supposed to be the smart ones?
    Agreed!

    Sounds like my school in NC; I get emails weekly of crimes on campus and in off-campus apartments. Only my school doesn't seem to care about knives, I see clips on people's pants all the time.

    The victim seems to have something hide by not reporting until 5hrs later.

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    And you thought the class work was tough !! Another reason that colleges(and I don't know speciffically about UF)must fight for right to carry laws. The savages don't stick up cop bars and gun stores but travel to "gun-free/victim full" zones to do their deeds.
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    I'll attest to that. Another one from NC currently enrolled in college. When I was living on campus it wasn't uncommon to have 4-5 robberies on side streets, in the middle of campus, or forced entries in dorms. Hell, I came back from spring break on my birthday and found all the doors on my suite kicked in and substantial things taken. I lost a laptop that I was about to have repaired for my cousin and my dvd collection. My roommates lost a lot more. Most of these robberies are of course armed.

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    Few of the 'real' incidents on the UF campus ever reach the news...that's a fact.
    I live only a few miles from that campus, and I know many who live, work, and attend classes in that area......lots of dirtbags roam the area.
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    I think every urban college campus suffers from crimes like these. Lots of "kids" who dont know much about the world mixed in with lots of criminals looking for an easy target (of which there are many in such an environment)

    I attended college in a place like this with robberies and kidnappings and murders happening all the time and as funklab mentioned earlier would often be required to park blocks away in bad neighborhoods because sometimes that was the only parking available period! You can bet that every night when I was walking back to my car after my late classes getting out (around 9 to 10pm) my head was on a swivel and constantly checking everywhere around me so nobody could sneak up on me and have me be the next guy on the news the next morning that was attacked, robbed, or worse.

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