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Carseat Baby

This is a discussion on Carseat Baby within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by varob In most states nowadays, its illegal to leave a baby in a vehicle unattended. So, even if the baby is just ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by varob View Post
    In most states nowadays, its illegal to leave a baby in a vehicle unattended. So, even if the baby is just napping, mom or dad already are in trouble. I'd call 911, report the incident and wait for directions. Being prepared to enter the car and retrieve the baby if directed.
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    I cannot imagine leaving a baby unattended inside a car and out of the mothers sight for any reason. I would call 911 and then break the window if I thought the baby was in distress. I wonder how many babies are stolen due to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Bullseye View Post
    Sorry but I'm gonna buck the trend here. Baby in car unattended and not moving, if the temp is anything above 50 to 60 the window is coming out (not any that are close to the child) at the same time 911 is being called. Below 50 degrees and 911 is called and tag number passed on while waiting nearby.
    Sounds about right to me.
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    Well, I'm calling 911 no matter what, this is child endangerment no matter how you write it up (anything could happen). I'm going to check the car door and if unlocked while I've got the 911 dispatcher on the line so I'm being tape recorded for every move I make while doing this and if they tell me different depending on the circumstances, then I will follow their instructions until they arrive (ie, temperature being the big one her).
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    I'd break the window without skipping a beat. I'd probably check the doors first and make sure windows are not down on the other side... but I would not hesitate to bust windows.
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    Just a new question for you to consider... Would you immediately start trying to revive the child next to or in the car, or would you run it inside the store into the air conditioning and then start?

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    911 and break a window... that kid dosen't stand a chance in the car. And, if Dad comes out with a gun ready to take my head, I am in the process of preventing serious bodily harm to a minor and am well within my right to defend myself
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    911 and break a window... that kid dosen't stand a chance in the car. And, if Dad comes out with a gun ready to take my head, I am in the process of preventing serious bodily harm to a minor and am well within my right to defend myself

    Good luck with that one.

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    Call 911, try and wake the child outside the car, if the child does not wake up, can't be sure what I would do next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opalelement View Post
    Just a new question for you to consider... Would you immediately start trying to revive the child next to or in the car, or would you run it inside the store into the air conditioning and then start?
    good question...one needs to be cautious introducing temperature extremes to someone suffering from exposure...it can lead to shock and cause more problems....

    i would like to hear from emts on this one...i know there have been multiple cases of freezing victims taken to warm areas and dying (the reason they advise you should press your body against a freezing victim to warm them slowly) and am wondering if taking a heat stroke victim into a cool place could cause similar problems...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
    good question...one needs to be cautious introducing temperature extremes to someone suffering from exposure...it can lead to shock and cause more problems....

    i would like to hear from emts on this one...i know there have been multiple cases of freezing victims taken to warm areas and dying (the reason they advise you should press your body against a freezing victim to warm them slowly) and am wondering if taking a heat stroke victim into a cool place could cause similar problems...
    First, I'm not an EMT. However, when I was working in the Army's Training and Doctrine Command, the policy for dealing with a Soldier going into heat stroke was to strip them to their drawers and apply "ice sheets" to them. (literally bed sheets kept in a cooler full of ice water). Iíve heard mixed reviews of it in practice. I never had a Soldier get to that point, so can't speak from experience.

    As far as the rest of the scenario. I'm going to break the window. While doing that I'd start shouting that the kid is in there, so hopefully someone else starts calling 911, and no one thinks I'm just breaking into the car. The parents are free to sue me for the damage after they finish fighting the neglect and child endangerment charges (and hopefully not negligent homicide.)
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    Easy answer on this one. Already had to decide. I was at the grocery store one afternoon, baby in car seat, sleeping, very hot. I took one look and knew that with the heat this child would die. Ran in the grocery store and made announcement on the speaker, no response, went back outside and busted the heck out of the window, called 911 and before the parent could return I had the police as well as the rescue squad there. Turns out the parent was in the dollar store next to the supermarket. She was arrested, baby removed from her care for a few days while it was sorted out. Her husband got custody of the baby. I found out through the news paper that her sister said it wasn't the first time she had done that. Child abuse is wrong but letting a baby die in a car is a very very horrible death. That baby's temperature was extremely high and emt told me the baby would have been dead in a few minutes. This happened many years ago but I would do it again with not one bit of hesitance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandma4 View Post
    Easy answer on this one. Already had to decide. I was at the grocery store one afternoon, baby in car seat, sleeping, very hot. I took one look and knew that with the heat this child would die. Ran in the grocery store and made announcement on the speaker, no response, went back outside and busted the heck out of the window, called 911 and before the parent could return I had the police as well as the rescue squad there. Turns out the parent was in the dollar store next to the supermarket. She was arrested, baby removed from her care for a few days while it was sorted out. Her husband got custody of the baby. I found out through the news paper that her sister said it wasn't the first time she had done that. Child abuse is wrong but letting a baby die in a car is a very very horrible death. That baby's temperature was extremely high and emt told me the baby would have been dead in a few minutes. This happened many years ago but I would do it again with not one bit of hesitance.
    geat story...was the child unresponsive already or did you not try to wake it up?...i'm just curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
    good question...one needs to be cautious introducing temperature extremes to someone suffering from exposure...it can lead to shock and cause more problems....

    i would like to hear from emts on this one...i know there have been multiple cases of freezing victims taken to warm areas and dying (the reason they advise you should press your body against a freezing victim to warm them slowly) and am wondering if taking a heat stroke victim into a cool place could cause similar problems...
    I am not an EMT but I was one 20 years ago. As I remember, it you are faced with a heat stroke victim. YOU cool them just as fast as you possibly can. Pee on em and fan em. Anything, water hose....fountain drink, anything.
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