This is a discussion on Actually happened... would you have complied...? within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Janq This. ^^ - Janq I value all your post highly but this seems to go against most of the post you ...
I agree with the post that said anytime a gun is drawn on you, you are being attacked and although I can appreciate a lot of responses of what people would do as far as ducking and diving, etc. I have to admit I keep thinking of the old adage that says you can't out draw a drawn gun. You are at a huge disadvantage because they already have the drop on you - you have been ambushed.
Feign fear and compliance. "Oh poop, no problem, here's my wallet." Be meek. Give them a dummy wallet with expired/fake cards and a few bucks in it.
Draw and fire while moving to a difficult position to draw fire. Rear of car, down onto road, etc.
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I am not advocating "Compliance" I am advocating that one make a proper "Threat Assesment". The OP puts you in a tactically inferior position. YOU must decide the level of threat and the probability that your counter measures will work. In the OP the perp is in a vehicle (he has some cover/concealment) he is holding a gun and you are confronted by him (he also has surprise) plus he has another Perp(s) on scene (numerical superiority). This is not the time to go Cowboy, this is the time to THINK your way through this.
If I am walking through a parking lot at 9 PM I am in condition yellow and if something does not look right condition orange . I carry appendix posistion and am proficient at rapidly accessing my weapon and placing fire on the target. Action trumps reaction. Whoever is walking with me will automatically be posistioned behind me when I face the threat giving them some protection and if it is my wife she will be accessing her 638. Showtime.
"Violence is seldom the answer, but when it is the answer it is the only answer".
"A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves".
i put myself in the bad guy position to put a thinking human being in the position instead of the idiot that most replies assume is occupying the position...i grew up in a decent middle class neighborhood adjacent to a rough inner city...my mother worked in city schools and brought less fortunate kids home well into their teens on weekends to enjoy what we could offer that they didnt have...i am not touting myself as an expert but you get a bit more of a feeling for the way desperate people think when you live with them even for short periods of time...their mindset isnt what you imagine it is and its difficult for a good law abiding citizen to wrap their head around how these people think and why...thats where my statement that what you consider reason is a street mistake to them and could do more to increase aggression than satisfy it...
there is more i am hesitant to discuss regarding my past but no differently than anyone else including yourself i am throwing ideas out there in the hope that it will help someone make the right decision when the time comes and understand the possible repercussions of a poor decision...any of which could be my own decision...thats why i tack an explanation on my rebuttle as opposed to simply stating i dont think it will work...
Sometimes in life you have to stand your ground. It's a hard lesson to learn and even most adults don't get it, but in the end only I can be responsible for my life. If faced with any type of adversity, only I can overcome it. Waiting for someone else to take responsibility is a long fruitless wait.