This is a discussion on Forced into car within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; i'm with treo on this one..once shes in the car shes dead as far as i'm concerned...911 brings the police and a hostage situation that ...
i'm with treo on this one..once shes in the car shes dead as far as i'm concerned...911 brings the police and a hostage situation that i dont see turning out well unless this is a bad movie...
my first though was charging and firing as soon as i draw a bead...the encounter is close and i know i can lay several in the kill zone on the move...shock and awe isnt what they expect and its the only thing that will catch them off guard...the only way they are both going to be able to return fire is to release her and one of em is going down immediately...
my wife already knows where i stand on this and i'm usre she'll be having second thoughts when lead starts flying but nobody is stuffing her into a car...
for the disable the vehicle folks...i'm not ******* these guys off once they have her in the car....its not a good scenario to shoot into the car once shes in it...too much chance of her being struck or them using her as a shield...that just makes a bad situation worse...and you couldnt hit an oil pan on your best day...anything that could disable the vehicle would have to be a luck shot at best...ever watch a chase of a car that has taken multiple rounds?...they dont stop...
nothing i gonna blow up at the gas station...thats where it has to end in my opinion...otherwise the likelyhood of it ending well gets worse with time....
IF I shoot the driver befor he gets in the vehicle, it is disabled unless the other perp lets go of the wife to take control of the vehicle. I doubt he is just going to sit in the vehicle with the wife, waiting for the PD to arrive.
You will do what your training has taught you. In that situation, things will happen fast. You will NOT have time to think out your course of action. That is guaranteed. At this point, I would do what others have said, I would draw, weapon at my side ready making the best line toward the offenders. Leveling the pistol and shouting commands to drop their pistol and release the lady. This will happen extremely fast. I do train for these situations. In my thought, there is no way the loved one can be allowed in the car. Trying to trail the car and dialing 911 could most likely lead to a worse case situation involving a hostage with desperate criminals etc... The situation that you paint needs to be dealt with immediately with surprise and gaining and keeping the initiative. IMHO only.
No way they are leaving if I can do anything about it, and no way they are getting out of my sight if they do. She'll just have to stay low and try not to get shot.
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My wife and I take frequent road trips because both sons live out of state. When you live in the middle of Texas, it is a long trip to any place "out of state." As others have said, we're partners in our personal protection. She doesn't enter the convenience stores while I pump gas. She's in the car with her own side arm. We enter the stores together. We're observant. Such a scenario as described doesn't have to happen.
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No way i'm letting too armed thugs kidnap my SO... If I can get a clean shot (without hitting her) i'm going to try and stop them and if I fail i'm jumping in my car and chasing them while alerting the authorities. They are not being let out of my sight.
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