Young Dumb Deputy
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July 11th, 2010 02:43 PM
Young Dumb Deputy
I was a deputy in a small Montana county, 2500 people, 6 total law enforcement, needless to say backup was scarce. A guy contacted me and said a guy was holding a woman hostage in a trailer.
I went to the door, stood to the side, knocked and identified myself. the door opened and out came a 30-06. I had my gun in one hand, grabbed the barrel of the 30-06, and pushed the guy back into the trailer where I saw a badly beaten woman on the couch.
He kept telling me to let go, and I kept telling him to drop the gun or I would shoot him. Finally I got pissed and just jerked the 30-06, it went off hitting the book case, but it scared him and he let go. I put him on the floor and cuffed him.
I charged him with assault on the woman, and assault against a police officer. The prosecutor ask if I was in fear for my life? I had control of the gun, and really didn't fear for my life, or I would have shot him.
Because I said I wasn't in fear of my life, the prosecutor refused to charge the guy with felony assault on a police officer.
I learned a very important lesson, be a afraid.
I learned that if I was ever involved in a shooting the first words out of my mouth had better be, I thought he was going to kill me.......
July 11th, 2010 02:43 PM
July 11th, 2010 02:48 PM
Stories like that drive me crazy. The judge was obviously looking for a reason to reduce the charge. If your gun was out, it wasn't because you needed a hug. 'Lesson learned. Thank you for your service.
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July 11th, 2010 02:57 PM
Your restraint might be admirable, but could also get you killed.
A muzzle move that you couldn't control and you would have a big hole in you. While fear may or may not be a factor, the potential capability of the perp definitely is.
July 11th, 2010 03:19 PM
LEO or civilian, always...always fear for your life!
(But you already know that now.)
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July 11th, 2010 04:49 PM
Busted that Superman theory in a hurry. Anyone looking at the business end of a gun is either scared or foolish. Bullets don't know the difference between the two.
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July 11th, 2010 05:09 PM
Dude...you have balls of rock. I'm glad they didnt get shot off.
I could go on, but whats the point? Hopefully you'll live long enough to continue to learn.
I know how it is with the backup, or lack of because for the most part when I am on patrol I have none. I am the only Deputy on shift in my small town of 1200, We only have enough for 1 per shift.
One thing I will say...
If I think there is going to be a gun fight of any kind, this pistol will be the last thing I use because I am either going to have a shotgun or an AR in hand.
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July 11th, 2010 06:35 PM
Welcome from southwestern Virginia. Kick your feet up and stay a while.
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July 11th, 2010 07:32 PM
GLAD you made it through that ordeal. Thanks for the heads up, Dude.
July 11th, 2010 10:05 PM
Good move and quick thinking. Glad you came out of it ok.
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July 11th, 2010 10:25 PM
Happy everything turned out ok. One thing you have to remember in a situation like that. The suspect with the 30-06 may not have been the only perp in the house that was armed. While your wrestling with him you could have been shot by a 2nd suspect inside the trailer. We lost two Delaware State Troopers who were wrestling with an armed robbery suspect (Male) and they were both shot and killed by his accomplice (Female). The Male grabbed both Troopers and held onto them while his accomplice methodically shot both of them. We lost two, he's dead and she's in jail for life.
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July 11th, 2010 10:55 PM
Darn kids think they are invicible. Don't use up all your luck too quickly!
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July 11th, 2010 10:57 PM
Thanks Guys, today I would have shot him in a heart beat. I was lucky and learned my lesson young. Most cops who are shot have less than 8 years on the job and hesitate. They can tell you a thousand times in academy what to do, but actually shooting someone is hard. It takes something like this to get that superman stuff out of your head.... Jay
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July 12th, 2010 09:15 AM
Darn good thing you followed your training and stepped to the side. Kudos for handling it the way you did.
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July 12th, 2010 10:38 AM
And you still have good hearing ? Stay Safe ; )
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July 12th, 2010 02:06 PM
Excellent, truly excellent point. I'm glad nothing happened to you.
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