August 18th, 2010 05:04 PM
You need to reference the laws of the state where you live/work/recreate as when carrying.
Positions on this vary state to state.
For example here in MA as written into statute there is a whole section specific to dogs threatening humans, and livestock (the only property in MA specifically allowed to use lethal force to defend).
In MA a dog does not have to be actually attacking as in biting/scratching/physically in contact with you or another to allow under statute it's being killed, as defense by a non-LEO civilian.
It only has to to be threatening toward a human as off it's owners property [A very important to know & understand caveat] and/or to be 'worrying' livestock that you yourself actually own/care for [No shooting for sake of your neighbors livestock or some other third person].
If a human is placed into fear by such a specific species, they then under MA law are allowed to kill it. It is literally called that in so many words "Kill" in the statute. The law is very clear on this in straight English.
But defense of domestic animals [non-farming purpose animals such as pleasure horses] and pets [cat, dog, rabbits kept outside, etc.] by lethal force is not allowed. As relevant to say walking your dog and having another dog attack your dog but give you the human no focus at all.
How do I or anyone else know this? You go to your state legislature website and read the statutes.
For any person who carrys on the streets this is IMHO _very important_.
As to dogs in specific a couple of years ago I'd posted in a thread a detailed analysis of dog on man victimization figures as provided by the CDC, sourced from reportings of states hospital incident reports.
That does not include primary care doctor visits as well as unreported and heal at home incidents.
Unfortunately as result of the recent site update the search function does not operate correctly if at all.
But a query for same using Google against this site brings it up as cached.
C L I C K H E R E
The end of the day analysis is that for a given US citizen from birth to death, they are far more likely to suffer attack by a canine be it a 'pet' of their own, someone elses or that of a 'wild' (un-retained) dog and by that to require on the inside hospital attendance (stitches) if not actual hospitalization & attendant care.
Do not sleep on dogs. You have been told.
"Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy
"A license to carry a concealed weapon does not make you a free-lance policeman." - Florida Div. of Licensing
August 19th, 2010 12:27 AM
If you can't prove the highlighted section..... he could sue you, depends upon many factors whether he would win.
Originally Posted by jzattack
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August 20th, 2010 06:54 PM
This is a real good topic. I love dogs but when the attack it's the owners problem. Its tough to defend against a dog because they seem to have more rights than us. Now, if it is a mutt I can kick well I will, but if we are talking more aggressive breeds then I have to do what I have to do. I just avoid dogs that seem aggressive, be watchful and get out of the way, too much hassle if you have to draw.
Listen, Think and React.....Nuff Said.....
August 21st, 2010 12:51 PM
I am not going to let a huge, vicious dog that is coming aggressively at me, bite me first. That much I am sure of. A pit bull coming at me and not on a leash is going to get smoked. I have full confidence in my articulation skills.
In the DC area there was a recent incident in which an off-duty officer is jammed up over shooting a dog at a dog park:
August 21st, 2010 01:16 PM
That 911 tape from the article is going to bury him, IMHO.
The off-duty officer has alleged that the dog he shot attacked HIM. But the 911 tape never mentions any threat towards a human. "I just discharged my weapon to a dog that was attacking my dog" at the 0:18 mark.
He's going to be looking at an expensive civil litigation experience after the criminal charges are resolved, I suspect.
Battle Plan (n) - a list of things that aren't going to happen if you are attacked.
Blame it on Sixto - now that is a viable plan.
August 30th, 2010 06:15 AM
Yes, I have. I performed item 2 without item 1 having happened. It (German Shepherd) leapt at me (walking on the sidewalk), teeth bared, I already had my knife in hand (dark night in inner-city Pittsburgh); it was over in a split second. Dog bled out in the street, while I went home to the dorm.
Originally Posted by bladenbullet
That which does not kill us leaves us broken and bleeding...
Donít mess with the guy who can barely stand up. His remaining options for self-defense don't include your survival.
Convenire Volui Spectatus
August 30th, 2010 06:31 PM
Bottom line? Anyone can sue anyone for anything.
Originally Posted by jzattack
Now, whether they win is another story.
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