My 2005 Car-jacking Scenario

My 2005 Car-jacking Scenario

This is a discussion on My 2005 Car-jacking Scenario within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Hey guys, thought I would post a scenario thread based on my armed car-jacking experience in Savannah, GA back in '05. I drew what I ...

Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: My 2005 Car-jacking Scenario

  1. #1
    Member Array DustyBottoms's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Tennessee!
    Posts
    112

    My 2005 Car-jacking Scenario

    Hey guys, thought I would post a scenario thread based on my armed car-jacking experience in Savannah, GA back in '05. I drew what I consider a accurate overhead view of the events so you can map out different scenarios and 'what would you do?' ideas. This was a fast, efficient car-jacking on a city side street by what police later told me was an experienced crew, so it could be easily adapted to your area. They later caught one of them and found the car in ghettoville.

    I lived in Savannah, GA for several years. Anyone who has lived there can tell you it's kind of a shady place, with ghetto blocks right next to ritzy ones. The worst areas in the city are only a walk or short drive from the nicest areas, and this works out well for the city's criminal element. I lived in an apartment right by one the city square were they filmed some of the "Forrest Gump" scenes, a nice area. I had barrowed my ex's Honda and was coming home from a quick run to Krogers at around 11pm. I parked on the side closest to my apartment, got out groceries from the passenger side when I heard, then saw a dark car come speeding around the corner up to 'my' car. This is when everything turned to slow-mo, as I saw to wiry black males leap out of the car. One went left with a gun in his hand, the other went right and I could not tell if he had a weapon. By the time I dropped the groceries in both hands, they were basically on me and the one on my left shoved a revolver in my shoulder shouting for my wallet and keys. The guy on the right took them from me. The whole time I felt completely defenseless without a weapon, or more importantly training, of any kind. My life was completely in their hands, to be taken when and if they chose to. Luckily, God was lookin' out for me and they left me quickly. They covered the right side guy as he hopped in the Honda, then the followed the other car.

    If I had been armed, I would have needed to be very quick to do anything. If both of the 'runners' were armed, not sure if the second guy was or not, it would get real ugly trying to fight my way out to avoid being flanked on both sides of the car. Plus I don't know what the get-away driver would have done, or if there was even a 4th passenger I couldn't see in the car. Theres alot of variables. Have at it!

    http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/p...ngscenario.jpg


  2. #2
    VIP Member Array ctsketch's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Connecticut
    Posts
    2,319
    sounds very efficient. not sure what chance someone with little training has against an experienced crew :(
    Glock 19
    Kahr PM9
    LMT-M4
    Mossberg 590
    Shodan, Jujutsu

  3. #3
    New Member Array 929bigo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Sugar Land, Texas
    Posts
    10
    Multiple (4?) attackers, likely armed, obviously targeting you specifically, somewhat well planned......at some point you have to look at what action is reasonable, and I believe you did the right thing. Unfortunately, being armed is not a "magic wand". A gunfight is not always the best answer to a car jacking. Now, IF there was only one armed attacker, IF they were trying to kidnap your wife or child, or IF...or IF...then maybe. You know what they say about landing an airplane--"any landing you walk away from is a good landing". I think the same can be said about a carjacking. Glad you walked away friend.

  4. #4
    VIP Member Array 9MMare's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Outside Seattle, WA
    Posts
    3,309
    Multiple professionals/experienced crew?

    In such a case, armed or not, you are safer complying.

    Glad you were ok.

    Did this event motivate you to get a gun? Or your carry permit?
    Fortune favors the bold.

    Freedom doesn't mean safe, it means free.

    The thing about "defense" is that it has practically nothing to do with guns. (As passed on by CCW9MM)

  5. #5
    VIP Member Array hogdaddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    N/E Florida
    Posts
    3,303
    Don't look like you had much time to react, If your drawing is to scale & you walked away, You did allright not getting shot as you were targeted :-(
    H/D
    A Native Floridian = RARE


    IT'S OUR RIGHTS>THEY WANT TO WRONG
    H/D

  6. #6
    Member Array yoyomeng's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    MN
    Posts
    93
    Boy that is a scary one. I'd have to agree just letting your car go would appear best armed or not. If you had been armed you would still have been out manned and maybe gunned. Was you car cleaned out when you recovered it?

  7. #7
    VIP Member
    Array WHEC724's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    SC
    Posts
    6,612
    Wow. With the guys running up on you from such a short distance, by the time you determined their intent (I wouldn't assume that everyone that runs in my direction is after me) it would leave little time to draw. If I was in that situation and cc'ing, I doubt the outcome would have been much different. 'Glad you made it.
    __________________________________
    'Clinging to my guns and religion

  8. #8
    Member Array DustyBottoms's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Tennessee!
    Posts
    112
    Thats what my cousin and I were talking about, just letting them take it and hope for the best. It's definately not worth dying over a honda civic. The only thing that still bothers me about it is when I think about what would have happened if they hadn't left me un-harmed, because either way my life was completely in their hands and that is a terrible feeling. There had been plenty of muggings and such in Savannah were the victim's had been murdered after they complied. The whole thing is a crap shoot I guess.

    When the cops found the car about a week later, it was cleaned out and really smelled like cigarettes. No biggy considering though.

    I guess it should have motivated me to buy a handgun and get my permit, it didn't really though. I was definately more alert everywhere, but I kind of put it in the back of my mind and hoped something that crappy wouldn't happen to me twice (knock on wood). I'm just now gearing up to buy my first handgun and get my permit, but better late than never!

  9. #9
    Senior Member Array CCWFlaRuger's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Florida's NatureCoast
    Posts
    708
    Quote Originally Posted by DustyBottoms View Post
    Thats what my cousin and I were talking about, just letting them take it and hope for the best. It's definately not worth dying over a honda civic. The only thing that still bothers me about it is when I think about what would have happened if they hadn't left me un-harmed, because either way my life was completely in their hands and that is a terrible feeling. There had been plenty of muggings and such in Savannah were the victim's had been murdered after they complied. The whole thing is a crap shoot I guess.

    When the cops found the car about a week later, it was cleaned out and really smelled like cigarettes. No biggy considering though.

    I guess it should have motivated me to buy a handgun and get my permit, it didn't really though. I was definately more alert everywhere, but I kind of put it in the back of my mind and hoped something that crappy wouldn't happen to me twice (knock on wood). I'm just now gearing up to buy my first handgun and get my permit, but better late than never!
    That's a lesson sort of learned then... you are more aware and that is huge, but you are assuming it will never happen again, you cannot do that. Your senses are your first line of defense, I wonder, what do you speculate that you would do now, knowing what you know, and armed?
    "You will not rise to the occasion and you will not default to your level of training. You WILL ONLY default to the level of training you have mastered."
    -Ruger P345; LCP
    -Mossberg 590A1; Model 42
    -Phoenix Arms Raven

  10. #10
    Member Array yoyomeng's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    MN
    Posts
    93
    Well hopefully insurance took care of the car for you.

  11. #11
    Member Array eggs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    145
    Glad you are here to tell the story, and the art was very nicely done.
    Situation like that, I probably would have done the same. Once someone(s) is that close and armed unless you are Jason Bourne ..lol, it's best to comply. The only caviot (*sp?) for me would have been if I was ordered into the car.. Then it's on like Donkey Kong , Because to me most likely they are going to take me somewhere to kill me. You did good keep your SA up and your head on a swivel.
    I carry a gun to protect myself & the people I love from the Monsters that roam this earth.

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. Car Jacking in Spokane Wa.
    By UnklFungus in forum In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: December 20th, 2009, 03:17 PM
  2. Car jacking type scenario
    By ExactlyMyPoint in forum Carry & Defensive Scenarios
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: November 25th, 2008, 12:08 AM
  3. Ugly. Car Jacking gone bad.
    By Reborn in forum In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: May 20th, 2008, 07:17 PM
  4. How to defend against car jacking.
    By gwlammers in forum Carry & Defensive Scenarios
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: February 26th, 2008, 11:17 PM
  5. Scenario: Tactical scenario, true story
    By Hotelcharlie in forum Carry & Defensive Scenarios
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: February 24th, 2005, 01:38 PM

Search tags for this page

car jacking scenarios

,

carjacking gone wrong savannah ga.

,

carjacking scenario

,

results of car jacking in spokane wa

,

scenarios of a carjacking in texas

Click on a term to search for related topics.