This is a discussion on How would you react?--Attack on Pregnant Wife within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by BigArn So what did the EX do? Nothin, that is what I thought. :) Just stay home, don't leave your home, everybody ...
The fact this question has to be asked is a sad commentary on the state of the legal education of people carrying handguns.
N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-18.2 relates to injury to pregnant woman. The law states that any person, who in the commission of a felony, causes injury to a woman, knowing the woman to be pregnant, in which injury results in the miscarriage or stillbirth by the woman is guilty of a felony that is one class higher than the felony committed.
Further, search this forum or the internet for the Subjective/Objective test for reasonability as it relates to self defense & defense of others.
I have to agree with treo. In all honesty if someone harms my wife or children i cant say i wouldnt go postal. Its just the nature of us all, im sure some fathers and husbands can relate. At that point i wouldnt care what happened to me. Regardless of the law at the time my family is in danger im gonna do what i feel neccessary to prevent further harm or death!!! Im not saying im going to kill everybody who looks at us wrong and i hope i never have to exp a situation where drawing my firearm is required. I am knowlegable with the laws and here in nc you defend the life of a complete stranger, but u better make sure they werent the instigator in the altercation, so im not worried about facing charges because i defend my family. The topic of this thread is the defense of an unborn child which i feel is more prone to death or serious injury considering how fragile they are
RUGER SR9 IN CROSSBREED SUPERTUCK DAILY
I don't care what the judge and jury might say! If I had a wife and she was carrying my baby and ANYONE punched her in the stomach obviously trying to kill my baby they just commited suicide in my book.
To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women
Men that beat women are cowards,they very seldom try anything in front of witnesses or somebody that could beat them within an inch of their life.If my wife was pregnant she's got some splainin to do lucy
"Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,"
--Mayor Marion Barry, Washington , DC .
Really, a question like this shouldn't even require ongoing thought.
Punching a pregger woman is a direct affront and purposeful attempt to do _GRAVE_ bodily harm as to her (first person immediate) AND to the being in utero (first person passive).
It is well known that for women their most vulnerable time in life in a real physical way is during pregnancy. Talk to any counselor, therapist or police that is trained in domestic violence and they will tell you exact same chapter & verse.
So if some person, _any person_ regardless of their background being violent prior or not, were to threaten to assault my pregnant wife with real and immediate violence...he or _she_ gets at that time in the immediate deemed to be an active threat, and is addressed appropriately.
To actually make contact and assault said person directly at all muchless in specific being a punch to the abdomen, upper chest or groin...would in my book warrant reaction as by way of force that could if not would include lethal force.
In my state (MA) I am supported as same., and we have laws on the books toward elders and children too for same reasons of being physically most vulnerable.
Any person who made such an action against one of my own would in turn reap the whirlwind. I'd expect same from any father, or for that matter able human being.
Pregnant women are about as off-limits as you can get.
I guess unless one is coming at you with a deadly weapon of some type, then that poses an interesting question.
Battle Plan (n) - a list of things that aren't going to happen if you are attacked.
Blame it on Sixto - now that is a viable plan.
I'll second what janq said. My wife is nearly full term right now too. I will do whatever is necessary to protect her.
this definatly hits home. I have my first on the way in jan. I find myself in supper high alert when out with the wife. Seems like you go up a color code when you are an expectent father. Same answer as most above, you attack my wife and our baby, you will be shot. But hopefully i will see any threat coming and divert said threat before it gets to that.
"In those days, there was a lot more respect for other people and it showed in peoples values.... Today the word value means nothing more than something you get on the $1 menu at McDonald's." -BARK'N
Story begins with Maine in wallyworld so you immediately start screamining about the circumstances and the potential of killing the unborn baby and the wife--this leads to WITNESSES. If your state has "alter ego rules", imminent death and or great bodily injury to someone else can be considered as if it happening to you and you can defend yourself (in this case someone else-hence "alter ego") with lethal force. In SC, and if I were on a jury and if there were witnesses and this was the story, I would vote for acquittal, if indeed, it ever came to a trial--good chance there would be no charges of any kind. Bottom line for me is--I yell, I scream, I do everything I can to get the guy off of her and stop him and ultimately, if I have NO OTHER CHOICE, I use deadly force.
I think this is enough to express my feelings...
I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness,
nor the arrow for its swiftness,
nor the warrior for his glory.
I love only that which they defend.