Shooting Through Walls

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    Quote Originally Posted by kccad View Post
    In the news today was the story of a Kansas City apartment manager who was investigating a noise in the hall outside his apartment late Thursday night. He was confronted by two persons dressed in black with black masks over their faces.

    “Break yourself fool. Back up,” one of them told him. In the Queen's English, I am told this means they wanted to rob him.

    The manager shut the door, grabbed a handgun and fired a shot through the wall. One of the suspects fired a shot. He then stepped into the hallway and fired another shot as they ran away.

    Your opinions on this incident are welcome.
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    Don't shoot thru any wall unless it is a necessity to survival.
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    Always know your target and whats on the other side or back stop. Firing blindly through a door was not good judgment IMHO. You should always know whats beyond you target. He could be in prison for murder, if one of more of those bullets would have entered and killed someone in an apartment.

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    The manager shut the door, grabbed a handgun and fired a shot through the wall. One of the suspects fired a shot. He then stepped into the hallway and fired another shot as they ran away.
    As others have said blindly firing through walls is a very bad idea. And shooting at criminals departing the scene could be problematic as well.
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    Have to say no to this one. Blind firing through a wall or door could lead to an innocent being shot. The shooting at the BG as he is fleeing wont cut it in most courts the threat is gone so no justification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHEC724 View Post
    It's a good thing that they were wearing ski-masks to identify themselves as BG's. I wouldn't have had a clue as to what he was saying to me.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhJDvI3gUO8

    1. Refer to above for jive talk...combine with mask over face for threat on life...

    2. Do not shoot fleeing dirtbags...it's over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleks View Post
    Don't shoot thru any wall unless it is a necessity to survival.
    +1 That's the way I look at it....
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    I would agree with shutting the door and taking cover... then call 911, shooting threw walls is good TV stuff, but if you kill someone, or child in the next room/apartment... that will ruin your whole day. If you shut/lock your door, mount yourself behind cover, now your kill zone becomes the width of the doorway which is in your favor and not so good for the bad guys entering a bullet highway.

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    I'd have failed the whole thing, I thought it was a break dance challenge and there was a film crew hiding behind the other wall. With all the droopy drawers and the mini pearl tags hangin from the flat billed hats I have a hard time figurin' if the masks were some new teen wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhJDvI3gUO8

    1. Refer to above for jive talk...combine with mask over face for threat on life....
    That goes on my list of some of the funniest scenes I've ever seen in a movie. The casting of Mrs. Cleaver/Barbara Billingsley for that scene was a stroke of genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Bullseye View Post
    I'd have failed the whole thing, I thought it was a break dance challenge and there was a film crew hiding behind the other wall. With all the droopy drawers and the mini pearl tags hangin from the flat billed hats I have a hard time figurin' if the masks were some new teen wear.
    I wonder if we showed them a few episodes of Hee Haw if it would take away the "cool factor"?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ5ob9B9yD4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B27z...eature=related
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    I can fully understand why he did it, but not in an apartment complex. But he was the manager, maybe he knew he would be firing into a vacant apartment across the hall.

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    1)Once behind a locked door, your immediate danger is removed from the equation, so, bad shoot.

    2)You cannot shoot a fleeing adversary (at least, not in Florida) so, bad second shot.

    3)If you cannot see your target, and are not in imminent danger, it is never a good idea to shoot. There is no way to assess collateral tagrets from behind a closed door or a wall.

    Close the door, lock it, call 911... if they come through the door, then, do the needful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by varob View Post
    I'd be more willing to do this in my single family home, more than in an multi dwelling structure.
    I agree.
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    Once the door was closed the threat was over. No need to fire unless he immediately heard them trying to break down the door. Then fire for effect!
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