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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf88 View Post
    i agree they dont value my/any others lifes above a 50 dollar fine and yes they probably would get bent out of shape if the found out theres a 21 on my hip and moss 500 under back seat but do they really just expect me to walk on in without arming my self
    Is it considered self-defense if you arm yourself and then make a one hour drive to confront a possible burglar?
    Just wondering.

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    No way am I responding to a security alarm in the middle of the night. If my company wants me there....fine...but I'm not approaching a building/store without the police clearing it first. That is really a stupid policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlr1m View Post
    Is it considered self-defense if you arm yourself and then make a one hour drive to confront a possible burglar?
    Doesn't sound any different than hearing a noise or seeing an open door and then heading downstairs or inside to clear the house. Of course, operating on a company's behalf might be treated differently in the state's statutes. Unclear.


    Quote Originally Posted by wolf88 View Post
    ... but do they really just expect me to walk on in without arming my self
    I'm betting "yes."
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf88 View Post
    i agree they dont value my/any others lifes above a 50 dollar fine and yes they probably would get bent out of shape if the found out theres a 21 on my hip and moss 500 under back seat but do they really just expect me to walk on in without arming my self
    YES, that is exactly what they expect. They are gambling with your life and as I suggested earlier, you are actually lucky they don't demand you don't live closer so you can check on those alarms faster. That's their level of concern for you.

    I know it is a tough job market and many employers act like that, but you need to be looking for a job that doesn't risk your life--- unless you are into the adrenaline thing.

    I think you are between a rock and a hard place and the comment in post 8 says it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf88 View Post
    but do they really just expect me to walk on in without arming my self
    Yeah, you are probably going to need one of those CCW badges, a hat and a flashlight.
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    I bet that alarm goes off in a thunder storm, Good luck & play it safe ; )
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    I work for a pool supply company and we have 20 stores. My bosses have to respond to the alarm as well. They used to respond until they all kept being false alarms and the first time they didn't respond someone had actually broken in and stolen the cash register from the store...

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    I take it the alarm company does not respond, just notifies you?

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    It's simple. The company cares more about the bottom line than the employees.

    The ball is in your court. Accept the policy or look elsewhere.

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    talk to your company about hiring a part time security guy whose job it is to respond to those kinds of alarm calls, then the alarm company calls you, you call him and have him go to the site, then if there is a problem, he calls you and the police to come out to it. Solves two problems, no OT, no fine, no getting out of bed and losing 3-4 hours of precious sleep, plus the company gets their alarms investigated. Alot of companies have someone on the pay roll who does this for like 10 bucks an hour when their called out
    "The value you put on the lost will be determined by the sacrifice you are willing to make to seek them until they are found."

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    Install video cameras to verify the break-in. You can either have the alarm company install the cameras or do it yourself. I'll assume that you have internet access with a static IP address. It's very easy to configure and you can review the live video from your smart / iphone even. That would save a lot of unnecessary delay in the event of a real break-in. If the alarm company monitors the video, LEO is even happier as they can now know where in the building the BGs are and how many there are. And the video will save a lot of false alarms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGP250 View Post
    Yeah, you are probably going to need one of those CCW badges, a hat and a flashlight.
    And possibly THE SASH.

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    make sure you face the sash to the back and the badge to the front so that way you are recognizable from both angles
    "The value you put on the lost will be determined by the sacrifice you are willing to make to seek them until they are found."

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    Drive around the property. Door open, window broken, strange car, , go to 7-11, call 911. If not, back to sleep.
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    policy that states if the alarm at the store goes off reguarless of time of night that instead of the police responding to the alarm the alarm company is to call the store manager and he\she is to respond.
    Let me guess, they also have a "no weapons" policy also.
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