This is a discussion on Police Brutality - How do you respond? within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by SIGguy229 This is the second police brutality thread in as many weeks....is this something a lot of people are worried about?? Seriously? ...
I know there is a link to a video, but I'll start to think about how I'll react in that situation when me and my wife are felons. Until then, I'll put my efforts into protecting my family and myself from BG's. Obviously only my opinion
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No win situation. You have to choose:
1) Defend wife, maybe get shot, go to prison, or slim chance get acquitted.
2) Don't defend wife, 100% chance of having to live with her for X years with the wrath of "you stood there and let him beat me like a dirty rug and didn't do squat....yada, yada, yada."
Think I'd rather take my chances with the justice system.
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That's the part that bothers me. When did one mans word become more credible than anothers just because he wears a badge? There have been thousands of complaints filed against cops that turned out to be bad. So, why would a citizen's word about what happened not matter just because a cop is involved? I got nothing against cops, but I don't think that a cops life is more valuable or more important than a common citizen that leads a productive honest life. I know I'm gonna get jumped on for saying that, but think about it. Is a cops life more important than a citizens life because he's in law enforcement, when there are thousands of citzens that put their lives on the line to save others every year?
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You have got to be kidding on the premise of this thread. I can see an impersonator, I can understand that you are a sleaze to begin with and LEOs were looking for you and chasing you and the mention of a firearm was in their equation. The rest of this scenario is pure baloney.
re:kelcarry concerning post #38.
I truly do agree with you that the scenario is not a realistic one, however, our Texas legislature clearly anticipated something of the sort when they passed the code cited by Farronwolf above.
I don't know when that was passed, I don't know the legislative history. I have to assume something happened which brought the possibility of a citizen needing to use lethal force against an abusive LE to the legislator's attention with sufficient public backing that the code was included in our law.
I have no idea how unique our law is within the US. Maybe we are the only state with the specific provision. That wouldn't surprise me one bit.
So while the scenario may be "pure baloney," it is clearly not one which was inconceivable to our legislature.
There is no women in the video and they are at a known drug house in which the driver fled and the passenger is resisting so they say. Although I do not agree with the 13 punches to the head the officer obviously over reacted. But the guy should not have resisted and probably would not have went the way it did.
So I am a little confused at the scenario because if your not doing anything wrong I don't see why an swore officer would cuff your wife and punch her in the head I just don't think that would happen. I am not saying that it could not happen but not very likely and if it did I would get a good attorney.
Hey Hopyard: Texas may have a law and you may be right if you decide to defend your better half against a beating but I will bet you that you will be dead right. Common sense would say that you have every right to defend yourself and others against a beating and potentially lethal force but correct common sense would say that if it is against a group of armed LEOs or, for that matter, a group of armed anything, you will die along with the person you are supposedly protecting. There really is no good answer to this thread except if you are Dirty Harry or Rambo and that is just in the movies.
The odds of such an occurrence, as has been mentioned befor, are even beyond rare although not impossible.
What I consider even more rare, ala rarer than rare, is that there would be other cops present at such an even that would not intervene and stop it.
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Here's what I wrote above: "Notwithstanding the law, anyone caught in this situation is in deep trouble and likely going to lose the war and their life or spend many years in jail. It isn't a foregone conclusion that such would happen, but it is the likely end result."
Last edited by Hopyard; November 7th, 2010 at 06:35 PM. Reason: added "here, maybe nowhere else.
The money we make from the law suit will pay for lots of plastic surgery for my wife afterward.
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