Store Clerk Charged In Man's Shooting Death

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    Store Clerk Charged In Man's Shooting Death

    This is an update to the second clerk involved shooting that happened at this location as discussed in this thread...

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...!-What-s-wrong...

    Investigators said Jones walked into the Shell station at Bannister Road and Drury Avenue and got into an argument with one of the clerks. One clerk forced Jones outside and there was a struggle. Investigators said that is when Rana stepped outside and used a stun gun on Jones. Jones tried to punch Rana and was shot as he was running away, police said.

    Prosecutors said Rana had a valid conceal-carry permit, but added that did not give him the right to shoot Jones.

    Police said Jones was not armed with a weapon.


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    DUH, he was running away, threat is over, you dont shoot. I dont understand some people.
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    Well first off the taser didn't drop him in his tracks. I wonder why?
    He definitely should not have shot him in the back.
    The thing I learn from this article though is NO WAY I am ever going to shop at this store. It’s a regular war zone apparently. I’m glad I live in another state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justherenow View Post
    DUH, he was running away, threat is over, you dont shoot.
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    Shooting a BG in the back when he is running away is not a good idea at all
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    This sounds more like an argument between two people who had some sort of running argument, and a final murder. This was not self defense.

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    Cops can't shoot anyone in the back and neither can we. Poor decision making.

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    I do think it would be good to point out that a back shoot isn't always a crapshoot. Oftentimes, the BG will suddenly turn to seek cover or grab an additional weapon, or just turn on reflex in reaction to shots being fired. In those cases, it isn't uncommon to end up hitting the BG in the side or back when you didn't mean to.

    I believe there was a recent case here in FL where a person in a legal, clean shoot cannot necessarily be charged for shooting someone in the back, if that person is an immediate threat. It was limited, though; meaning, hitting someone who suddenly turns and tries to climb back out your window or tries to run to grab something behind a wall - not the guy is already half a block down the street and you chase him down to "finish him off."

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    I'm sure that there are exceptions to shots hitting the back, especially inside a home. In most instances, shooting at someone running away is not going to go well for the shooter.OMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerzsubbie View Post
    Cops can't shoot anyone in the back and neither can we. Poor decision making.
    Yes you can. So can the cops.

    You have to just be damned sure the person is still a threat to you or other people.

    OR......

    On top of that there are plenty of cases where people are shooting and someone gets hit in the side or the back because they were turning as the weapon was firing.

    I'd like to see the footage.

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    Shooting a BG in the back is an option. My goal is to survive not to win a fair fight.

    This guy will have his day in court and the scenario gives me something to think about. If you use deadly force you may have to stand in front of a jury and convince them you were in fear of [life] and had no other choice. If the BG is running away, that is going to be difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GM View Post
    Shooting a BG in the back when he is running away is not a good idea at all
    That's unless the BG is shooting at your direction while running away. Just something to add. Again, if it's safe to disengage, then by all means, do so.

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