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Uh where's the "Be a good witness" guy?
Last edited by Bubbiesdad; November 16th, 2010 at 07:23 PM.
Always remember that others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.
Richard M Nixon
Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician.”
Is turning your back on an armed criminal who is within striking distance safe? Was it the right course of action in that case merely because the bad guy was lazy or otherwise not inclined to take further action?If he had the opportunity to escape safely (which he did) that was the right course of action gun or not.
My NRA instructor taught me this, I 'm in a wheelchair, I would have backed up and started talking loud(get away, I don't want problems) to draw attention of other people so if I had to shoot his AZZ people can say I warned him. He said to always cary a couple of singles in your pocket, throw them on the ground, back up with one hand covering your head area and blocking his line of sight. When he goes for the $$-Bam/Bam/Bam
As I have said befor, It is hard to argue with success, that does not necessarily mean it is repeatable.
"I do what I do." Cpl 'coach' Bowden, "Southern Comfort".
"Do you want to be hounded by a 15-20 year drawn-out legal battle when you could have just ran away?"
"Do you want nightmares for the rest of your life when you could have just ran away?"
"Do you want to have to actively avoid the friends and/or family of this guy for the rest of your life when you could have just ran away?"
If Chuck Norris, Clint Eastwood, or Sylvester Stallone want to shoot the bad guy while making a "macho" remark that cracks up everyone in the theater, then more power to them. But here in the real world, that situation is best avoided.
Now if he had someone with him to protect, it becomes a different scenario. But when alone, he should try to evade if possible.
"I practice the ancient art of Klik Pao."
Don't ask him anything...
If you are gonna run, run.
If you're gonna shoot, shoot.
You might warn him, but don't ask him anything, and immediately follow up with action. Fact is, all you may have to do is show you are willing to resist, and have the means (a gun) to back up your willingness.
Caveat: If just seeing the gun doesn't change his mind, use the gun, right now... no hesitation.
It could be worse!
1) Feel in danger;
2) Pull gun;
4) Pull trigger until danger ends or I run out of ammo.
If the danger ends at number 3, I don't see why I should be arrested; unfortunately, many PAs see it differently.
Anyway, regardless of the legalities, I am likely to have ventilated the guy.
Human Beings understand Reason, Compassion, and Dignity
Predators understand Strength
He's as likely to run between #2 and #3 in my scenario as well as yours. If he stays, I might as well hold him, as you stated odds are 95% in my favor. if it goes to trial (the 5% chance in your scnenario or mine)... What if the jury could be convinced that he was just carrying the knife becuse he was afraid of the bullies at school... You just killed a scared kid on his way home from school cutting thru the wally world parking lot. He never got the knife out... unless you alter the "evidence".
Most of the time in a "I've shown you mine, now you show me yours" scene, if his scissors don't beat your rock, he's gone... if you give him paper instead, he wins, AND he can still use the scissors.
It could be worse!
Knowing how fast someone can draw a knife and close distance makes me more likely to draw one of my weapons while attempting to create distance and giving loud verbal commands. For those of you that have not studied the Tueller Drill, or run it, I suggest you do so. It can be very eye opening.
I would do this even with the local liberal politics we have because I see this as necessary to ensure Rule Number 1 for myself.
RULE NUMBER 1: I'm going home alive!
I walk with a cane and cannot run,Iwill gladly give him $10.00 in bullets
"Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,"
--Mayor Marion Barry, Washington , DC .