This is a discussion on Aging parents, neighborhood gone down hill within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; There is only so much you can do as some elderly folks still think they live back in the 30s or 50s. All you can ...
There is only so much you can do as some elderly folks still think they live back in the 30s or 50s. All you can do is remind them. I talk to my folks too and they live in a very quiet area and no one there is suspicious as neighbors watch for each other. But I still keep my guard up and look at the area's vulnerabilities. It may be nice now. But what about a few years later? You know what I mean? They still have a home alarm system from ADT and I even bought door bar/jamb for the front and rear door of their house. I even bought 2 large canisters, not the ones for bears=lol, of OC for them to have in their bedroom. I have 4 guns and I usually leave my 2 long guns in their home, locked up in a steel cabinet in the guest bedroom that I sleep in when I visit (they have the spare key for it too), for them to use in my absence [when I took both of them for an annual range refresher (it's like pulling teeth to get my mom there), my dad loves both the 12 ga. and AR, but my mom likes the AR much better and hates the 12 ga.=lol/my dad goes out to shoot with me more than once too] until the day I get married and have my own home and family. My 2 handguns, I have at my own residence and take with me when I visit. The 2 long guns I leave with them are just extra firepower for me to have to augment my 2 handguns. As for my parents owning handguns, no way, in their opinion. And, although they respect my position on guns, they just are not too much the gun types. And they are contented w/ the long guns that I leave with them at home.
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Your description of "that" generation is not all uncommon. It is a sad commentary that our society has dwindled down to what you describe.
Like you, my parents still live in the same house and neighborhood, 54 years and counting. We used to know everyone, left our doors open and nobody ever bothered us or the house. That has changed.
Neighborhoods go into transition from good to bad all too often and they can be downright dangerous. My parents 'hood isn't all that bad, however, there are the one's around I would not trust. They do at least acknowledge that fact, a bit.
My parents are definitely not "anti", dad is avid hunter and gun owner and my mom doesn't care if we all have guns. I just don't think she could use one if indeed the situation presented itself so, yes, I feel your pain as well. There just is no easy answer to living in oblivion but hopefully your parents may see the "light" someday.
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I just wanted to chime in with a thought from both ends... a while back, maybe 35 years ago, I was working in my mothers front yard. I had a fella run up the street and shortly after, there was a police officer running and yelling, stop or I'll shoot. He had a BIG nickel plated revolver. Next, I have a talk with my mother. I tell here, you need to move. With in a year, she had the house sold and we were moving her to a smaller town. Flash forward the last 35 years, She lived across the street from me the last 15 years, safely. I buried her last Dec. She was not physically able to defend herself the last 10 years and mentally, not the last 5 - 6 years. Now, I'm just passed the mid 50's so I'm fast heading to the geezer age, some think I'm there now?? I cannot run, my hands don't do as well as they did, my hearing and sight are not where they were. I am not going to lay down and die till it's my time. So... I carry what I can handle. I will use what I need when it's called for and I will adapt when I step into my next level of capability. spray, knife, firearm, flame thrower... Yeah, I still tease with some stuf. Enjoy your life, your family, your kids. All is over too fast.
My father and I had the same type "discussion" after why I bought a Glock to carry. He would not accept that the real world today is not the world of his youthful days, that kids these days don't duke it out to settle a beef, they pull firearms and shoot--no questions asked.
I had to take him on a tour of the area where we formerly lived to show him how rundown it had become, boarded-up homes to keep the crack addicts out and stripped cars all over the place. Wonderful place, Charlotte, NC, the "Queen" city. Yeah, right.
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Sometimes mom's just say things because they don't want you to worry about them. Last time I was at my mom's house I noticed that my fathers old nightstick was next to the front door. He had been a police officer before he passed away. She knows but won't say anything. Shes a typical mom that doesn't want to worry her late 50's / early 60's babies.Even my mom who lives in a quiet, safe neighborhood will be the first to tell you the bad guys aren't going to rob the poor homes
Most BGs commit crimes of opportunity. They're there, x is there, it's a combo of wrong place at wrong time for the victim. Crime happens in poor neighborhoods because many times they are convenient because that's where the BGs happen to frequent. Sometimes they may have reason to be in a nicer area and again it is a combo of place and time with opportunity being the catalyst. Some of the slightly higher end BGs will target homes or people based on perceived potential score and relative ease of it (expensive lawnmower outside, predictible patterns of coming and going, isolated location). Much higher end BGs are looking for much larger opportunities in terms of $$ than burglary or theft of an individual or home. They're targets are large take opportunities and may be more brazen or may be covert (commercial theft of inventory on truck, jewelry store, gun store, bank, etc.). Unfortunately, we all may be in the wrong place at the wrong time and be in the path of BG regardless of community, job, etc.
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No Guns, No Safety, No Peace.
Sure crime can (and do) happen in "nice" neighborhoods, but your odds are much, much better for a crime-free life in a "nice" neighborhood. You're many times more likely to be robbed, mugged, or assaulted in neighborhoods and areas where these types congregate.
fastk9dad: Your mom's wrong. Look at the crime statistics for your area.
When you type it all out and kind of step back and read it all, it's "WOW." My parents deserve better than this. It's a shame.
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No Guns, No Safety, No Peace.
I too have worried about my widowed 87 year old mother living alone. Her house was on a narrow rural state highway when we grew up there and played all over that end of the county. Now it is on a 6 lane highway with a head shop and a bar across the road. Dad kept guns and hunted all my life, but when he died 14 years ago, Mother refused to talk about moving or home defense. She said she had lived there for X years and could take care of herself and felt safe.
Then, the SO called me last year from her house and suggested I get over there--but that Mom was fine. It seems that she heard a noise around 3 am and grabbed Dad's 12 ga 870 and went out the back door. She encountered a totally "neckid" illegial alien on her unattached car port. He spoke no english and she spoke no mexican, but he sure understood Remington. She held the gun on him, called 911 and waited for their response. The responding officers (9 or 8 deputies) could not believe how cool and collected she was. She told them to get the "trash" off of her property and go back to work. That included me as she wanted to go back to bed.
I am still concerned about her safety, but just say Yes Mam and pray her health continues to let her maintain her independence.