First time I was really glad I was able to carry.

First time I was really glad I was able to carry.

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    First time I was really glad I was able to carry.

    I have been carrying for about two years now and have gotten used to it and no longer worry about someone making me. I also do like the feeling of that extra little bit of security that I get by knowing it is an option should I need it.

    Well until Tuesday night I had never really felt like I might need it.

    My wife works teh switch board at the hospital. She works second shift so she gets out at either 11:30 or twelve depending onthe day. If it's 11:30 she leaves at the same time as all the second shift nurses and such are leaving but if it's twelve then she's about the only one leaving at that time. Usually hospital security is pretty good about making sure the girl leaving at 12 has an escort.

    Tuesday she called me and asked me to come and pick her up at 12 to take her to her car. It seems they had a mental patient that was ticked off at the hospital and was making threats about kiling everyone there. This guy has been kicked out of other hospitals and mental care facilites for being violent.

    The security people basically put the hospital in a lock down situation so that they had people at all the entrances to watch for this guy. This meant that there would not be anyone available to take the wife to her car. Her plan was for me to park right next to the door she said she would be coming out, drive her over to the parking lot her car was in then follow her home.

    I had to get up extra early the next day for a trip to Indiana (more on that later) but knew that I would have to go escort the wife to her car even though it meant losing a little sleep. As I was getting ready to head over to the hospital I got to thinking, it would not be that easy to draw from my IWB holster, with a winter coat on while buckled in my car. I decided it would be better to use a pocket holster in my coat pocket so before I left I switched to the pocket holster. The grip did stick out the pocket a little but since I wasn't planning on getting out of the car I decided it would be OK.

    I met the wife and get her to the car without incident, but that was the first time that I actually felt their might be a real possibility of needing a weapon. My SA was higher than normal (ie. pucker factor).

    As far as Indiana, they honor my CPL, but I was travling with a co-worker and the law in Indiana says that the only way to carry a gun in a car in Indiana is with an Indiana carry permit. Since we would only be stopping at the factory we were going to, I couldn't see asking the co-worker to pull the car over at the border so I could put the gun in the trunk, then put it back on when we got to the factory, remove it to drive back to Michigan, and then stop and retrieve it again at the Michigan border, so I just left it home.


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    That Indiana law sounds pretty strange... They honor your out of state ccw permit, yet you can't have it with you in the car unless it's locked up?

    Can you point me to that statute? I don't get to Indiana very often but I do go there occasionally. I knew they honored my Missouri permit, but knew nothing about that car law.
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    I'm always happy to escort my wife anywhere she or I feel uncomfortable about.
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    I am with Bark'n. Are you sure that you read the Indiana law correctly? Sounds wierd. The way I read it, you have to have a permit that IN honors, not just an IN permit. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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    I would double-check your reading of IN law if I were you....please point out where you're having trouble with the car carry/transport...
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    Hospitals can be dangerous places. Especially ones that have mental health facilities.

    Fortunately, they usually keep the dangerous ones under lock and key.
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    What kind of IWB do you use?

    I use the CBST "Deluxe" and I can draw fine sitting in my vehicle with the seatbelt fastened. I just tuck my shirt "behind" the holster when I have on a cover garment. (I also usually remove my jacket when I drive.)

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    I, too, think the OP misunderstands the IN law -- either he misunderstands or I do!! I live in OH, have an OH CHL (along with NH and PA) and went back to IN this past summer for my 50th high school reunion. I carried at all times, and drove my truck from SW Ohio to NW Indiana and back home with my .45 in a holster on my person, and as far as I read their law was in comliance with it at all times! The only time I wasn't carrying was in the shower and in bed!
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    BTW... regardless of the confusion over car carry, I think you did fine with the wife. That's what husbands do! We get out of bed to drive the wife across the parking lot, if that's what it takes. When I worked ER we had our hospital on lock down a couple times. I know people were pretty nervous.

    Still, can anyone verify that statute on traveling with your gun in the car? If you're out of state, your gun must be locked up even if you have a ccw Indiana honors?
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    good job with the wife, however the statute you read in indiana is incorrect, as long as your permit is honored here, you can carry here, in your car, on your person. I would also avoid city and local parks, and government buildings/schools. The state law allows city and local parks but most cities have local ordinances against that. You misunderstood the law, what it means is that you must carry how your permit specifies, if it is a concealed weapons permit, chl, anything with concealed on it, you must conceal, if it is just a license to carry or a carry permit and does not say concealed on it, you may open carry or concealed carry. I am not a lawyer, this is just how it was explained to me and how I read it in my Indiana firearms law manuel, if its on your hip in your car, loaded, not a problem.
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    I would only agree with Bark'n, one takes care of their mate. Good on ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INccwchris View Post
    good job with the wife, however the statute you read in indiana is incorrect, as long as your permit is honored here, you can carry here, in your car, on your person. I would also avoid city and local parks, and government buildings/schools. The state law allows city and local parks but most cities have local ordinances against that. You misunderstood the law, what it means is that you must carry how your permit specifies, if it is a concealed weapons permit, chl, anything with concealed on it, you must conceal, if it is just a license to carry or a carry permit and does not say concealed on it, you may open carry or concealed carry. I am not a lawyer, this is just how it was explained to me and how I read it in my Indiana firearms law manuel, if its on your hip in your car, loaded, not a problem.
    Here is the confusing part from the USA Carry.com sight...

    What are the laws for carrying a firearm in an automobile in Indiana?
    You may only carry a handgun in a vehicle with a Indiana hangun permit.

    Can you clarify?
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    Quote Originally Posted by INccwchris View Post
    good job with the wife
    I agree. That is what we do.

    Quote Originally Posted by INccwchris View Post
    you must carry how your permit specifies, if it is a concealed weapons permit, chl, anything with concealed on it, you must conceal, if it is just a license to carry or a carry permit and does not say concealed on it, you may open carry or concealed carry.
    While I understand the language of the law, I don't understand it's intent. In Ohio we have concealed permits but OC is allowed without a permit. Go to IN and you must CC even though you have an OC right in OH Just because the permit says concealed there is no need for a OC permit in OH. It just seems goofy to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    That Indiana law sounds pretty strange... They honor your out of state ccw permit, yet you can't have it with you in the car unless it's locked up?

    Can you point me to that statute? I don't get to Indiana very often but I do go there occasionally. I knew they honored my Missouri permit, but knew nothing about that car law.
    http://www.usacarry.com/indiana_conc...formation.html

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    What are the laws for carrying a firearm in an automobile in Indiana>
    You may only carry a handgun in a vehicle with a Indiana hangun permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppkheat View Post
    I'm always happy to escort my wife anywhere she or I feel uncomfortable about.
    Agreed. Better safe than sorry.

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