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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911srule View Post
    He'd have been safer calling cops and waiting outside garage at least. Even then I'd be afraid cop would mistake owner for perp. I understand frustration and feeling like you need to act. Catch 22, Could've been easily shot as he entered. If his garage had a camera, you'd think he'd have it at least secured with a proper door. That tarp was an invite to any coyote looking for an easy target imho.Damn lucky guy.I got a neighbor who refuses to lock up and it attracts kids constantly. Dumb.Where we live , we're on our own. Rural, police may or may not get there in time to apprehend BG. Hard decision...
    Cops rarely shoot first, ask questions later. I'm all for going prone as I yell, "I'm the owner; the perps are in there." I think they'd be obliging.
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    And this my friends is what happens when you start to 2nd guessing your self and is not prepared mentally. I'm almost sure that if the BG had a loaded gun, the BG would have started shooting 1st.
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    It's easy to armchair the event on video, and I'm sure (in my mind) that I wouldn't opt for a mexican standoff.
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    I'm not going inside a place I can't see before just barging in.I would have waited outside with my shotty and called 911,they would never know I'm there until they pop out and I shout commands,non-compliance immediately,hands going to pockets,and they get fired on.I live in Texas and by law I don't even have to shout a warning
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgb View Post
    The homeowner has more kahunas than brains.
    How many Kahunas do you need?????

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    If he was aware of the break-in a call to 911 would have been more appropriate. He could have then taken shelter in a safe room while staying in contact with the dispatcher. House-clearing should be left to the professionals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantes View Post
    As I mentioned in the previous thread, I'm not going to give a criminal an even break if I can avoid it. I'd be outside next to the truck with a gauge.
    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    I'm not going inside a place I can't see before just barging in.I would have waited outside with my shotty and called 911,they would never know I'm there until they pop out and I shout commands,non-compliance immediately,hands going to pockets,and they get fired on.I live in Texas and by law I don't even have to shout a warning
    Quote Originally Posted by 1911srule View Post
    He'd have been safer calling cops and waiting outside garage at least. Even then I'd be afraid cop would mistake owner for perp. I understand frustration and feeling like you need to act. Catch 22, Could've been easily shot as he entered. If his garage had a camera, you'd think he'd have it at least secured with a proper door. That tarp was an invite to any coyote looking for an easy target imho.Damn lucky guy.I got a neighbor who refuses to lock up and it attracts kids constantly. Dumb.Where we live , we're on our own. Rural, police may or may not get there in time to apprehend BG. Hard decision...



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    Too may unforseen variables once inside the garage with that tarp.
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    Old Vet,
    I agree that would work if police roll up on the place. I'm in a rural area, they may or may not. Might park and enter on foot. Best to have wife call 911 and give my description maybe. I'll be the guy holding an 870. I can't say how I'd respond, depends. But possibly position myself outside to observe where perp entered and listen. Prone 'em out when they leave that building. Here's my concern, the perp MAY have a lookout or two that might blindside ya.In PA without a castle doctrine leaving the confines of the home leave owner at a disadvantage legally. At present might be best to just notify police and get best descriptions without leaving the home. The security of family members is highest priority, not loss of property from out buildings. Just a hard pill to swallow, most of the time police will not apprehend offenders...

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    I remember a similar thread a couple of months ago - the consensus was, that if the man could afford suveillance cameras - he could also afford a decent garage door - instead of a tarp that would just invite theives in.

    Guy was extremely lucky.

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    No brains, no cojones; just a whole lot of stupid and a bit of luck all around.

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    Why go out there at all? You've got a video camera set up, so the bad guys will probably get caught.

    Also, the guy leaves the women and children in the house WITHOUT ANY PROTECTION and goes out into an unknown situation. What if there was another perp who went into the house while he was outside playing cops and robbers? Who would protect the women and children? He should have stayed in the house to protect them instead.

    I have a gun at home for SELF DEFENSE, not for defending my garage. If someone threatens me or my family (i.e. they come upstairs in the middle of the night), I shoot first and ask questions later. That's where I'm staying and that's what I'm protecting. NOBODY COMES UPSTAIRS. But if they're trying to steal my lawnmower, I call 911 and wait for the cops. It's not worth the risk of 1. getting shot, 2. leaving my family unprotected, and 3. going to jail for shooting someone who is NOT threatening my life.

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    Whether the wife/family is left WITHOUT ANY PROTECTION, is dependent on the circumstances involved and the training and means available to those left in the house.

    1. Dependent on circumstances, training, experience and ability.
    2. Covered above.
    3. If they are not a threat, don't shoot them.
    4. Statutes relative to individual action against criminal activities.

    The course of action chosen is up to the individual, based an a number of factors. I fault no one for either choice if proper consideration is given to the factors involved.
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    Point taken about different circumstances and factors, but you are talking about taking risks. I am talking about minimizing risks.

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    It's a dupe thread and the home owner is still a moron.

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    Wow, I just watched the video. The only thing I can say is, those guys are lucky they didnt come to my house and do that.

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