This is a discussion on Caught on tape, armed homeowner confronts two burglars......... within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by 1911srule He'd have been safer calling cops and waiting outside garage at least. Even then I'd be afraid cop would mistake owner ...
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And this my friends is what happens when you start to 2nd guessing your self and is not prepared mentally. I'm almost sure that if the BG had a loaded gun, the BG would have started shooting 1st.
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It's easy to armchair the event on video, and I'm sure (in my mind) that I wouldn't opt for a mexican standoff.
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I'm not going inside a place I can't see before just barging in.I would have waited outside with my shotty and called 911,they would never know I'm there until they pop out and I shout commands,non-compliance immediately,hands going to pockets,and they get fired on.I live in Texas and by law I don't even have to shout a warning
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If he was aware of the break-in a call to 911 would have been more appropriate. He could have then taken shelter in a safe room while staying in contact with the dispatcher. House-clearing should be left to the professionals.
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I agree that would work if police roll up on the place. I'm in a rural area, they may or may not. Might park and enter on foot. Best to have wife call 911 and give my description maybe. I'll be the guy holding an 870. I can't say how I'd respond, depends. But possibly position myself outside to observe where perp entered and listen. Prone 'em out when they leave that building. Here's my concern, the perp MAY have a lookout or two that might blindside ya.In PA without a castle doctrine leaving the confines of the home leave owner at a disadvantage legally. At present might be best to just notify police and get best descriptions without leaving the home. The security of family members is highest priority, not loss of property from out buildings. Just a hard pill to swallow, most of the time police will not apprehend offenders...
I remember a similar thread a couple of months ago - the consensus was, that if the man could afford suveillance cameras - he could also afford a decent garage door - instead of a tarp that would just invite theives in.
Guy was extremely lucky.
No brains, no cojones; just a whole lot of stupid and a bit of luck all around.
Why go out there at all? You've got a video camera set up, so the bad guys will probably get caught.
Also, the guy leaves the women and children in the house WITHOUT ANY PROTECTION and goes out into an unknown situation. What if there was another perp who went into the house while he was outside playing cops and robbers? Who would protect the women and children? He should have stayed in the house to protect them instead.
I have a gun at home for SELF DEFENSE, not for defending my garage. If someone threatens me or my family (i.e. they come upstairs in the middle of the night), I shoot first and ask questions later. That's where I'm staying and that's what I'm protecting. NOBODY COMES UPSTAIRS. But if they're trying to steal my lawnmower, I call 911 and wait for the cops. It's not worth the risk of 1. getting shot, 2. leaving my family unprotected, and 3. going to jail for shooting someone who is NOT threatening my life.
Whether the wife/family is left WITHOUT ANY PROTECTION, is dependent on the circumstances involved and the training and means available to those left in the house.
1. Dependent on circumstances, training, experience and ability.
2. Covered above.
3. If they are not a threat, don't shoot them.
4. Statutes relative to individual action against criminal activities.
The course of action chosen is up to the individual, based an a number of factors. I fault no one for either choice if proper consideration is given to the factors involved.
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Point taken about different circumstances and factors, but you are talking about taking risks. I am talking about minimizing risks.
It's a dupe thread and the home owner is still a moron.
Wow, I just watched the video. The only thing I can say is, those guys are lucky they didnt come to my house and do that.