What is your SA color?
This is a discussion on What is your SA color? within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; In my experience, it is impossible to never go into white. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it is actually healthy to let it happen. You just ...
February 14th, 2011 04:58 PM
In my experience, it is impossible to never go into white. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it is actually healthy to let it happen. You just need to know when and where is a safe/appropriate place to do it.
Some trainers now also include "Black" after red, which avoiding is a bigger challenge than never going into white.
EDIT: As with almost everything in defensive situations, it is a continuum, with shades in between the colors. And one must be able to go quickly from one to the other. However, it is easier to go from yellow to red, than white to red.
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February 14th, 2011 04:58 PM
February 14th, 2011 05:44 PM
They can sometimes be seen falling into fountains ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeVn6_iwtJQ ) and doing other silly things.
Originally Posted by Guantes
I've never been in a dangerous confrontation, so I've never been in red, but theres been a few times I've gotten done working on a group project for school and walked home at 2AM in downtown Milwaukee, I am an Orangish-yellow then, otherwise I'm usually yellow. I figure 2AM, theres plenty of drunk people to rob instead of someone keeping an eye out 360*.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation. - Rule #23 in the USMC rules for gunfighting.
February 14th, 2011 06:40 PM
I live eternally in DefCon One!
Actually, I don't live in any color code or condition. I use common sense more than SA. It's more a case of avoidance than awareness for me, avoiding ATMs, convenience stores, large, dark parking lots, etc. I can't bring myself to be on the edge all the time. No one can avoid everything all the time, so I don't get paranoid about it. Someone's sure to blast me on this, but I kind of enjouy bring able to run to the store without cruising the parking lot three times looking for potential BGs, parking only beneath the lights, falling over the curb because I was looking back over my shoulder for someone sneaking up on me.
My house is not a castle, it's my home where I am comfortable and live without fear. No walls, no moat, no detection systems (other than the alarm system on when away). If I were to have to live in constant fear of invasion, I've already lost the freedom I enjoy.
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Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid...
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February 14th, 2011 08:02 PM
In code white only when sleeping...
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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February 14th, 2011 10:16 PM
"Code white" once in a while. Otherwise I'm in Yellow or higher. An "advantage" to being raised around violent jerks.
February 15th, 2011 09:03 AM
I live in yellow, thanks to many years of military I think I sleep in yellow as anything will wake me up at once (I am a terrible sleeper) But I am amazed at my wife who is in white all the time... I took me years to get her not to open the door just because someone knocks.... she now checks to see who it is; then opens the door if she knows them or not????
February 15th, 2011 09:21 AM
Yellow primarily, will purposely switch to orange at work in certain stuations. The thing I have found about yellow, is it also make me more aware to the good things around me as well.
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February 15th, 2011 09:53 AM
Yellow mostly............but not my favorite color.
February 15th, 2011 11:24 AM
My wife tells me I only see things in black and white but I think I'm more balanced than that . Is gray an option ? OK then various shades of yellow.
February 15th, 2011 12:09 PM
This particular forum is getting a lot of my attention lately................I find it to have extremely intelligent scenarios and thoughts. This is my first time writing here. I have never been in a "red" situation. I have been in an "orange" situation which has made me try to be "yellow" in almost every public situation. In the house I tend to be "white" although I have weapons stashed safely and accessibly in a couple of locations. Does that make me a "pale yellow" or an "off-white?"
February 17th, 2011 06:12 AM
I've been in all of them due to the Military, but yes.
I go DefCon White from time to time. I also practice a technique I'll call "Light Yellow". This is where I am actually quite aware of my surroundings, but I act like I'm not. The upper register of your eyes is sensitive to motion from the days when most threats came from above (it's been a while since this was true, but your genetics don't know it yet.). I walk around with down-cast eyes and keep track of my surroundings with developed peripheral vision. I also usually have my mouth somewhat open. This serves two purposes:
1. You look kinda "dull" and stupid (not a threat)
2. Your hearing and sense of smell (breath through both mouth and nose) is vastly improved
Great way to surprise people who think you're not paying any attention.
It's primary purpose however is to blend in and not look like you're "casing the joint". Works very well and adds to the camoflauge of "your average oblivious American".
That which does not kill us leaves us broken and bleeding...
Donít mess with the guy who can barely stand up. His remaining options for self-defense don't include your survival.
Convenire Volui Spectatus
February 17th, 2011 07:35 AM
Of course the modern urban warrior has to exist in the continuum. You have to train your mind as hard as you train everything else, and part of that involves meditation and concentration.
Some disciplines like chi gong require a very specific focus, yoga does, too. And you can't do such things right if you're constantly all amped up expecting ninjas to come blasting through your windows. Sorry, "always in Condition Orange always" guys, but you lose.
It's more like having a pair of binoculars. You can't use them if you only set them on one focal length.
"It may seem difficult at first, but everything is difficult at first."
February 17th, 2011 09:01 AM
Plaid.....code plaid.. Actually I agree with OldVet
Originally Posted by OldVet
February 17th, 2011 09:24 AM
Just as long as it isn't Code Pink.
One more step and it's on!
February 17th, 2011 09:25 AM
Used to be pretty white--after a terrifying encounter when we lived in AK (posted here in this thread about a year ago or so) have switched to fairly constant yellow. Its interesting to notice others who are also in yellow and then even more interesting when they notice you being aware of them as well
Yesterday, filling up my truck I noticed a security guard standing outside his armored truck--he was obviously waiting for his partner to come out of the truck stop/resturant--the dude was armed but NOT dangerous--he was in total white, taking a smoke break while "on guard" but oblivious to his surroundings........
Scott, US Army 1974-2004
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