This is a discussion on Pit Bull Fast Approaching within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Old School "If a pit bull, rot, doberman or any other vicious breed of dog charges me, it is getting shot. " ...
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Right. Golden retrievers are just like pitbulls. Amazing that we dont see pitbulls used as petting animals in nursing homes and children's hospitals. I don't mind people owning pitbulls because they're so nice and friendly, in fact I think it's great when those nice cuddly pitbulls snap and maul their owners. What's sad however, is that those idiots often have kids who get to play chew toy before they do.
Atctimmy I agree any that any dog can bite. But a golden biting and pitbull biting are two VERY different things.
if you need to shoot the dog shoot it ,dogs are disposible, my/your loved ones are not, simple as that
With regard to the problem of shooting that relatively small, moving target, I'll pass on the advice I got in AF survival school in dealing with E. German guard dogs. Stand bladed to the dog, you weak side forward. Extend your weak arm fully and make a fist. The dog will jump at the nearest part of you - your fist. He'll swallow your arm up to about your elbow. You now have a steady, nearby target. Alternatively, if you'd run out of ammo in that .38 revolver, grab the dog by the stomach (where you hand is) and yank hard, turning the dog inside out. Now all you have to deal with is the E German dog handler, who will now be doubly pissed at you.
The only common sense gun legislation was written about 224 years ago.
I carry always not because I go places trouble is likely, but because trouble has a habit of not staying in its assigned zone.
Everyone should be really sure about things, before they introduce a gun into the situation.
And yes.... I've had a neighborhood dog that we had been telling and telling the Police it was vicious, go on an "attack" on my kids... it was a German Shephard that went way out of it's way & quite a distance to attack. I backed it off with a hammer and a board. I've also dealt with a lot of dogs that were aggressive and know how to generally handle one without introducing a gun. Now, the time a wolf decided to attack ..... I wish I would have had a gun, but we got inside a garage about 2-3 steps before it got to us.
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Everyone gets up in arms about the dog topic. "There are no aggressive breeds, ect, ect." I call baloney on that. There are most definitely more protective breeds that can inherently be more aggressive. We all know that the little rat size dogs can be "snappy" and are prone to biting. You don't, however, have to worry about being killed or seriously mauled by a tiny dog. From my personal experience, I have been chased by dogs in attack mode on numerous occasions. A couple times when I was younger, and a couple of times when I was older - in which I stood my ground. The breeds that have aggressively come after me have been: rottweilers (twice), german shepherds (twice), pit bulls (twice), a boxer, and a pit mix. Honorable mentions are some little rat sized dogs of my neighbors that will charge you full speed, barking and growling. They have scared mine and my roommates gf's to death at night. They have been booted a few times, but are too small to pose a threat. ALL of the owners in these situations guaranteed me that they had the sweetest dogs and that they would never harm anyone. Some of them, I am 100% certain they would have mauled me had they gotten close enough.
When younger, I had to run and climb trees/run into my house - and thankfully beat the dogs (rottweilers) My golden retriever fought off a german shepherd that charged ME, not my dog when I was younger. When older, and had a german shepherd come at me, in my yard while taking the trash, I pulled my sog tech bowie, took an aggressive stance, and it backed down (this dog got shot by a nearby resident only weeks later. I can only imagine why.). The pits that have been aggressive towards me would run at you if you came too close to the cul-de-sac in my neighborhood, thinking they owned the place. Even if they didn't full on attack, they got way too close for comfort in a fully aggressive manner. Same situation with the boxer. Charged barking and snarling at full speed, but stopped when right in my face. How are you to judge whether or not they are going to actually attack? It is practically impossible.
I have had too many bad experiences with dogs. If one ever charges at me again, on my property, I will definitely be firing. I would be cautious if it was just me, and I was in a public area like a street, but would only shoot if deemed completely necessary. ...However, If I had loved ones (especially young children) nearby that I thought were in danger... It would be a tough call. Most of you may be right. It could be 100% the owners fault if their dog acts the way that it does. It will also be their fault if their animal gets harmed because someone feels that they, or their loved ones are in imminent danger.
I will agree that it would be a very tough call in the OP's original post. Every time I have been charged by, or seen a dog charge, they were barking or growling, and snarling before the sprint, though.
21bubba, is that cat an assault cat? If so I think you need to seriously rethink how much danger you are in because NOONE should ever have an assault cat. In fact I would like to call for a ban on assault cats, and high capacity cat food bowls immediately for the protection of the public.
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