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    vodka + signs of being emotional unstable + someone you don't really know = being face down in the middle of the street

    To answer your question. Verbal judo as mentioned, plus calmness/de-fuse/buy time if possible. You with CCW, and he with rifle ,you are obviously at a disadvantage. For best results avoid the formula above.

    What transpired that successfully got you up and off the street? Was it because the police showed up, the neighbor witnesses watching him, he came to his senses and left or what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ppkheat View Post
    vodka + signs of being emotional unstable + someone you don't really know = being face down in the middle of the street
    ^^ this.. i agree.. fool me once shame on me kind of thing

    What transpired that successfully got you up and off the street? Was it because the police showed up, the neighbor witnesses watching him, he came to his senses and left or what?
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    a little bit of all of the above, neighbors saw and hear what was going on and called the police, police showed up he snapped back to reality.

    in the police report, they were already responding to a shots fired call in the area... so trust me when i say that when they showed up, they came out guns drawn. (according to the police report i obtained)

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    When I read your story, the first thing that comes to my mind, is the importance of speaking with a Lawyer prior to making a statement to Police.

    Your story did not articulate a clear picture of what happened. This doesn’t mean that you lied to us or that you are intentionally withholding information. It simply means that you left doubt in people’s minds. In the aftermath of a SD situation any doubt is a bad thing.

    If we think there is something missing from a story, we tend to fill in the blanks and some people can be very creative.

    How much did everyone have to drink?
    Was there any recreational medication involved?
    What was so important that you walked to his house late at night to get?
    Why didn’t you wait till the morning?
    Why didn’t you call first?
    Was he hitting on your wife, then you dragged her down there to straighten things out?

    Please don’t think that I am calling you a liar, I just wish to point out how difficult it can be to properly articulate a clear, concise and accurate picture when involved in a stressful situation.
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    Wow, what a weird experience.

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    The first thing that came to my mind in reading the original post was perhaps the other guy was sleep walking. Isn't their some sleep medication that has a warning about doing things then not remembering them later? Perhaps he "Came to" after he let you in and left the room for what ever reason in his sleep. It sounded like you were unsure as to why he left the room anyways. Perhaps when he heard you and your wife in the other room he thought you had broken in.

    Just saying, it kind of explains a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevem174 View Post
    When I read your story, the first thing that comes to my mind, is the importance of speaking with a Lawyer prior to making a statement to Police.

    Your story did not articulate a clear picture of what happened. This doesn’t mean that you lied to us or that you are intentionally withholding information. It simply means that you left doubt in people’s minds. In the aftermath of a SD situation any doubt is a bad thing.

    If we think there is something missing from a story, we tend to fill in the blanks and some people can be very creative.

    How much did everyone have to drink?
    Was there any recreational medication involved?
    What was so important that you walked to his house late at night to get?
    Why didn’t you wait till the morning?
    Why didn’t you call first?
    Was he hitting on your wife, then you dragged her down there to straighten things out?

    Please don’t think that I am calling you a liar, I just wish to point out how difficult it can be to properly articulate a clear, concise and accurate picture when involved in a stressful situation.

    ya, i see what you're saying.. had i posted word for word right out of the police report and my first hand account with all the details, the post would have been like 50 pages long. So i opted to leave out non pertinent details.

    How much did everyone have to drink? Too much
    Was there any recreational medication involved? No
    What was so important that you walked to his house late at night to get? Read up
    Why didn’t you wait till the morning? Good question, clearly i did not think this one through
    Why didn’t you call first? didn't have his phone number
    Was he hitting on your wife, then you dragged her down there to straighten things out? No, and even if he had been the night would have ended long before we were drunk enough to make wildly bad decisions, and i'm not a confrontation kind of guy.

    The first thing that came to my mind in reading the original post was perhaps the other guy was sleep walking. Isn't their some sleep medication that has a warning about doing things then not remembering them later? Perhaps he "Came to" after he let you in and left the room for what ever reason in his sleep. It sounded like you were unsure as to why he left the room anyways. Perhaps when he heard you and your wife in the other room he thought you had broken in.

    Just saying, it kind of explains a lot.
    yes, this is what it seemed like to us also, so this could very well have been the case.. we were just as shocked and confused as everyone else in this thread is now. Quoted from the police report "I woke up and they were in my house"

    untrue.. we don't have the habit of breaking into the house next door to ours, or any house for that matter. heh

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    The LEO's here are (rightfully so) suspicious.

    I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the OP with the advice that this is a valuable 'life lesson'. If you live long enough, you will eventually come to the conclusion drinking with strangers is a form of russian roulette. A friend of mine once laughed this advice off until he called me one night in a panic, wanting me to escort him home. It's just a matter of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHEC724 View Post
    The LEO's here are (rightfully so) suspicious.

    I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the OP with the advice that this is a valuable 'life lesson'. If you live long enough, you will eventually come to the conclusion drinking with strangers is a form of russian roulette. A friend of mine once laughed this advice off until he called me one night in a panic, wanting me to escort him home. It's just a matter of time.
    thank you.. and yes, lesson learned.. thankfully nobody was hurt in the process of me learning this lesson.

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    Do You think the guy was a meth head?

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    You realized earlier in the day that he was "emotionally unstable" and you continued to hang out and drink with him. You should have made up an excuse that you and your wife had to go somewhere and said good bye to him. Party time has to end and it's time to go.
    "Confidence is food for the wise man but liquor for the fool"

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    Don't go to stupid places.
    Don't do stupid things.
    Don't hang around stupid people..........that's it.

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    Don't do stupid things with stupid people, too.

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    I think that the least offensive thing that could be said about this is that a considerable amount of naivete was displayed.
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    Well, OP, although you didn't really know that you were doing it at the time, but you were putting yourself in a bad situation that night. I don't know what to think about the craziness of the situation, but the sleepwalking theory may be it. In the end, no CCW permit can teach you to stay out of trouble in the first place. You have to know how to, or figure that one out before you start carrying a firearm. Had you been armed in this situation, things may have gone terribly terribly differently.
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    I might suggest in the future you limit your drinking to one or two,I would think if you had misplaced your electronic cigarette you would have noticed it earlier,Back when I used to drink and smoke,I actually smoked more when drinking.Even if you would have been carrying legally I would have to say if you shot your neighbor in his house ,you would very likely be looking at charges.
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