What Would You Do? Waffle House Robbery

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    I think that if I felt it was safe, I would quietly, unobtrusivley unholster, take the safety off and keep my .45 under the table or out of easy sight--and keep my head on a swivel--but simultaneously try not to stand out as a target, and be a good wittness.

    However, if he demonstrates intent to harm rather than intimidate, or starts going from table to table to rob/threaten individual patrons (meaning my family) this brings another set of decisions into play, do I engage when he is distracted, or cover my gun with a napkin and give him my wallet.......tough call--do I risk a gun fight--with potential dead bodies other than the BG or give up the wallet in the HOPE that all he will do is take my wallet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paullie View Post
    another reason not to eat at the waffel house
    Stay away from stupid places. The Waffle House qualifies as a stupid place in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    I would sit quietly unless I had the stone cold drop on the guy. Or until I thought he was going to kill someone.
    Ditto. The robbery of an establishment which does not appear to involve somebody getting hurt is not something I would play Batman over.

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    He would have gotten my attention, depends on if he only wants house money or something from me. Also if he starts shooting people would put a whole new light on things.
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    Same response as others have stated. In Virginia, if he is clearly using the gun for intimidation purposes, or at least likely that a LEO/judge/jury would think so, pulling and using my handgun to force him to drop his weapon and leave (i.e., stop robbing the joint) might end up with me in the joint. So, I'd likely pull it quietly and watch closely. Even if he comes up to rob me, unless I have legitimate reason to fear for my life, or that of who I'm with (or anyone else for that matter), if he goes from table to table to rob me then I believe the law dictates that I cannot brandish the firearm. So, I have to hand-over my wallet and grrr...all the way. If he shoots more than the first warning shot, or looks like he's going to harm someone, than I'd try to put 2-3 in center of exposed mass. In the end, if I draw he'd better end up dead, so his/her lawyer cannot cross-examine me noting that the gun was clearly not being used but to intimidate and I was the gun-crazy. If he/she is dead, it seems likely that the patrons of the establishment would back my story. But you never know. At least in Virginia, life always outweighs loss of property, and brandishing is no allowed, so the gun might as well materialize in my hand the moment their is a mortal threat. Otherwise, it might as well not be there.

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    Last time I had a waffle there, it had a texture similar to Captain Americas shield, so I would feel pretty safe as it would probably stop a bullet.

    But in all reality, I would try to keep eating, not make eye contact, let him get his money and go. Be a good witness, call police, and then go to nearest store to get something for indigestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    Last time I had a waffle there, it had a texture similar to Captain Americas shield, so I would feel pretty safe as it would probably stop a bullet.

    But in all reality, I would try to keep eating, not make eye contact, let him get his money and go. Be a good witness, call police, and then go to nearest store to get something for indigestion.
    And this is from a LEO. Now if an off-duty LEO would do the above, then the rest of us should consider it sound advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    Last time I had a waffle there, it had a texture similar to Captain Americas shield, so I would feel pretty safe as it would probably stop a bullet.

    But in all reality, I would try to keep eating, not make eye contact, let him get his money and go. Be a good witness, call police, and then go to nearest store to get something for indigestion.
    I agree with you 100%.
    One more step and it's on!

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    I wouldn't eat in a Waffle House as long as they're serving food. Really, how hungry does one have to be to eat there? Maybe if they offered decent food they'd have a better class of "visitors." I'll stick to Cracker Barrel for breakfast.
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    I used to have an off duty gig at waffle house years ago. It was about as easy as being a road house cooler. The people leaving the clubs and going there to eat are already juiced up and rowdy. Sometimes ya gotta have a heavy hand. I didn't stay there long.
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    Well, this happened to my roommates uncle in Louisiana about a year ago. He was eating at a huddle house, when an armed robber stormed in and looted the place. Her uncle wasn't armed, and laid low during the robbery. When the armed robber saw him and thought he looked like someone who might have a little cash on him, he shot, killed him, and took his wallet. Later, he was caught.

    If I am eating somewhere and someone storms in to rob the place, I am going to assume that I am a target. I will do anything necessary to prevent what happened to the unfortunate man stated above from happening to me. I would make sure I had a clear shot, and drop the armed robber on the spot. The above incident is one of the reasons that I started carrying in the first place.

    Edit: For everyone that stated "if he started shooting, then I might... ect. ect." Well... He might start shooting. You might just be the target of the first shot. Then what? You're dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad Rogers View Post
    And this is from a LEO. Now if an off-duty LEO would do the above, then the rest of us should consider it sound advice.
    Dont get me wrong, I would want to act, and have a duty to do so. However, the safety of everone else in there takes priority. Now, if I see or have reason to believe he will hurt or kill someone if I don't act, the top of his damn heads coming off. But sometimes, discretion is the better part of valor.:)
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    I use to eat in the local Waffle House on occasion until I started carrying a couple of years ago. Since they are posted and signs do have the force of law here in Ohio, I no longer frequent that place. A whole lot better for my health on two accounts (1). I avoid a free fire zone for bad guys (2). I avoid raising my cholesterol by not eating their sausage, bacon, and ham.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    Dont get me wrong, I would want to act, and have a duty to do so. However, the safety of everone else in there takes priority. Now, if I see or have reason to believe he will hurt or kill someone if I don't act, the top of his damn heads coming off. But sometimes, discretion is the better part of valor.:)
    I took your earlier comment only as a rational response to the scenario. Here you are, armed and duty bound, yet still not necessarily going to go into Batman mode. And my point was meant to essentially be "look, if this guy is not going to launch into Batman mode, when he already has several more reasons than we do to, then why in the heck should we think we ought to absent some compelling reason?"

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