In that situation I think it would have worked better for anyone to be the best witness they could be. Even if you were in that store could you have made a shot legally? None of the customers were held at gunpoint or physically hurt. Please enlighten me.
Statutes vary somewhat by area, but, generally speaking, fear of GBI or death and the allowance of the use of force to prevent a felony.
I doubt customers or clerks lacked fear of GBI.
Just because you have a gun doesn't mean that attempting to use won't get you killed. Someone standing over you covering you with a gun will get his shots off far faster than you can pull, point, and shoot.
In this case, the BG's never shot anyone. I imagine that would have changed if one of the customers had been a cowboy and gone for their gun.
If they start shooting people, all bets are off. I'd rather die trying than curl up in a fetal position and take one to the head. My $ .02
A gun pointed at me is all the authorization I need. I have said it before and I'll say it again. A gun pointed at me and in anger results in automatic justification.
My Bersa Thunder .380 PLUS holds 15+1. Can't say I would have had an opportunity to use any of those .380 rounds in this scenario, but the point is taken that you need to have enough lead to make sure each bad guy gets his fair share :smile:
Originally Posted by deafdave3
Wow those guys are good. It's a real gamble to engage them. Maybe like some were saying you could have opened fire before they entered but that would have to be almost perfect recognition and without hesitation. You can only hope they the other two run when your pistol goes off on one of them. With the numbers and smoothness of these guys it doesn't seem likely though.
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Looking at it a few times the one guy waiting in line had the only real llok at the three comeing in.
Originally Posted by Savage206
It would beemn long shot but he could have taken the one guy .
How ever we cant see the other two
According to the time stamp on the video, they were in and out in 30 seconds. In the door at 23:20:12 and back out the door at 23:20:42. One half of a minute! Three armed and well coordinated felons with a plan.
That's a hard one to guess what to do. It's over and they're gone in the time most would still be saying "what happened?" (Which was an integral part of the plan!) It's damn hard to formulate a response or counter-attack in that kind of time when you are caught totally off guard.
I would likely be "sucking tile" on the floor like the rest until it was over. What I may have done would be to surreptitiously draw my gun and keep it tucked away underneath my body, ready to pounce if they started shooting customers. But, if I can't see where they are, it's pretty hard to draw my weapon.
As someone already stated... With that kind of coordination, why aren't they robbing banks?
Possibly, so the Feds aren't down on them.
1. I don't work for 7-Eleven
2. To many innocent bystanders
3. No constant visual of all three intruders
4. No sufficient cover
5. Return fire from too many angles
6. Not my property
7. 3 against 1
8. Too many lawyers
Negatives vastly outweigh the positives :yup:
These guys were pros ..... I am sure they gave everyone instructions ..... you do nothing, unless they start shooting