I carry my 23 and a spare mag, a flashlight a folder and my keys. In summer I carry my 340 and the 23 is locked up in my ride. I do have a GHB in the ride but it has nothing tactical in it. if I cant fight my way out of a situation with 27 rounds of 40 caliber and my brain I am in real trouble anyways. If it is just 5 shots in my 340 then if I dont hit my target then the muzzle blast and concussion from the .357s in that little hand shaker will scare them off. :danceban:
Anything much more than that is uncomfortable. Everything I carry is completely stealth and not visible until I get it out. I like being "grey".
The court shall award reasonable attorney fees, costs, compensation for lost income and all expenses incurred by a defendant in the defense of any civil action based on conduct otherwise justified pursuant to this chapter if the defendant prevails in the civil action.
In other words, you can still be sued. If you prevail in court, you will be reimbursed. To add some more to this, the burden of proof that the shooting was justified pursuant to the chapter lies with you, not with the court. As we have seen recently in the Casey Anthony case, you can't predict how a jury will decide a case.
Everybody has to make their own decisions as to what to carry. Carry as you wish. But the reason that lawyers get $200 an hour is because the law can be a murky thing.
When the cops show up for your involvement in a Wally World incident, I wouldn't be wearing shooting glasses and electronic muffs (although you would be able to hear the cops questions clearly).OMO:rofl:
First of all, I don't believe carrying a BUG is excessive. Also I don't believe at least one reload for each gun is excessive. As a matter of fact, it is prudent to do so. For every idiot a prosecutor puts up as an "expert witness", saying two guns is too many, I can line up five heavily credentialed, well respected lethal force instructors who can say a BUG for a civilian is not excessive.
As far as carrying OC spray, I also believe it is prudent to carry a less than lethal method of dealing with less than lethal issues. The one knife I carry is a utility folding knife. I also carry a bright Fenix LD20 flashlight.
As far as an ambulance chasing attorney gnawing at why I didn't use my OC spray against a knife wielding or gun toting assailant... Well, I think that's pretty self evident. It wouldn't be prudent to attempt to use a tool designed for unarmed aggressors against a lethal force threat, now would it?
Do I believe a person can carry too much which can reflect negatively in a criminal or civil proceeding? Probably. But what is that line? All the documented professional training I've ever attended has recommended a back-up gun and always a spare reload for each weapon you carry. A flashlight and less lethal option has always been stressed as well. Of course, these are choices left to the individual and are things to consider based on what you believe best suits your situation.
I know plenty of police officers who pretty much view their job as more of a social worker than anything else. Most of those same police officers don't particularly like guns, and know very little about them, including their own. I know very few who even carry a gun off duty let alone a BUG while on duty. I'm not too concerned about the attitudes of responding officers. They are either going to do a thorough and impartial investigation or they aren't. I'm not saying too much to them anyway without the presence of my attorney.
I think that carrying 2 guns, 2 knives and 4 mags is excessive, paranoid and simply stupid.
I carry a gun, a spare mag, a knife, wallet, keys, small flashlight and iPhone and I still feel like I'm pushing it. More than that and I would feel like Robocop on steroids. If I were to engage in a gun fight that required more than 24 shots of JHP .40 S&W to get home alive, then I must've done something seriously wrong or I just stumbled upon a battle zone.
It's funny how some people worry excessively about their gear and weapons choice, but they forget to train with their firearms, exercise to be fit, eat well and be healthy. The chances of dying at a major gunfight are slim, but the chances of dying of a heart attack due to overweight or lung cancer from smoking tobacco are far higher. Yet, people stress about the fact that they can't get a good enough gun belt to hold two 1911's and 4 mags to go to Walmart for milk.