Witnessingx

[DeviousMind]

Murder victim was beaten with rock by husband, Clark police say | The Courier-Journal | courier-journal.com.

What would you do if you are witnessing this? My wife actually had to see the victim when she was brought into the hospital. The perp went at this poor lady with a 25lb rock once she was on the ground. Her skull was just mush. And if thats not enough he almost decapitated her with a box cutter. My wife has worked at this hospital for 14 years and she said it was the most disturbing thing she has ever witnessed, she had tears in her eyes as she told me about this. I know what I would of done. Might not of saved this poor lady but this POS would have a lead overdose.

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[ArkhmAsylm]

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Wouldn't hesitate to put one in him. Let the courts & God sort it out.

[Cattus Vir]

I can not argue her life was in danger and I have a conscious.

[bbqgrill]

All I know about domestic assault is what is on the news/tv; it seems that often the victims turn on the police when they respond. It would suck to use lethal force on the attacker to save the woman to have her or their family file civil charges against me.

[NC Bullseye]

Unless you were present from the start of the fight, before you intervene you have to ask yourself, "Is there ANYTHING that could possibly make me commit that type of violence against another human?" If not, then you need to intervene with force necessary to stop the threat and if that level becomes deadly then remember, this act brought you to the point of deciding on a deadly assault on another person, could they have also legitimately reached their turning point as to the use of deadly force?


I'll not state what level of force I would use other than to say I'd try to stop the assault since I don't have enough info based on the scenario given as to what point in time I came upon this situation.

[smolck]

Bang. I just saved the taxpayers money. Men who hit women are lower than dogs and should be treated as such. You don't hit a woman, period, let alone this. Rapists, child molesters and wife beaters are just the most vial thing in the world. I won't judge their souls, but in this case I'd arrange the meeting so God can.

[packinnova]

Bang. I just saved the taxpayers money. Men who hit women are lower than dogs and should be treated as such. You don't hit a woman, period, let alone this. Rapists, child molesters and wife beaters are just the most vial thing in the world. I won't judge their souls, but in this case I'd arrange the meeting so God can.

Reverse the incident and you have a woman pummeling the man with a rock...change your tune on that not hitting period? Just saying... In an abuse case I agree, but PERIOD is pretty set in stone...

[archer51]

I don't condone striking a woman, but, is she decides she wants to open the ball game, she needs to understand that shes playing under the same rules as the other players.

[dukalmighty]

When I was an LEO I actually was involved in a domestic where the woman beat the snot out of her husband,little disparity of force,he was like 5'6" 120,she was like 6' 250.I'm kinda glad she went with the program.

[JOHNSMITH]

All I know about domestic assault is what is on the news/tv; it seems that often the victims turn on the police when they respond. It would suck to use lethal force on the attacker to save the woman to have her or their family file civil charges against me.

Normally I would agree with you, but there is a line that can get crossed that would convince me to intervene. The woman can say whatever she wants, but the evidence would clearly implicate the husband. There may also be other witnesses around.

[Gene83]

If I had been there, I would have intervened. Mr Roche's response to that intervention would have determined how far it escalated. Even under the far fetched scenario that Mr Roche is a law enforcement officer and the woman he is beating is on the FBI's "most wanted" list, there is a time when the person is subdued and the beating should..and will stop if I am there.

[smolck]

Reverse the incident and you have a woman pummeling the man with a rock...change your tune on that not hitting period? Just saying... In an abuse case I agree, but PERIOD is pretty set in stone...

Yes, PERIOD. I can subdue a woman without striking them. We can play the "what if" game but c'mon, why pick apart this particular comment I made? You don't hit a woman in normal situations. If a woman hits me, I will not hit her back. That's the way I was raised. If I even raised my voice to my mom or sisters my dad's hand would be upside my head. To which he'd say "you never hit a woman, PERIOD".

Of course, I don't conduct myself in a way where a woman would need to or want to hit me. Due in large part that when my wife asks "do these jeans make me look fat?" I am pre-programmed to say "NO!".

[Guantes]

25 lb rock, I would stop it.

I have on the rare occasion found it necessary to hit a woman or two, but as a rule, no.

[oneshot]

Yes, PERIOD. I can subdue a woman without striking them. We can play the "what if" game but c'mon, why pick apart this particular comment I made? You don't hit a woman in normal situations. If a woman hits me, I will not hit her back. That's the way I was raised. If I even raised my voice to my mom or sisters my dad's hand would be upside my head. To which he'd say "you never hit a woman, PERIOD".

Of course, I don't conduct myself in a way where a woman would need to or want to hit me. Due in large part that when my wife asks "do these jeans make me look fat?" I am pre-programmed to say "NO!".

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BUT........In the back of your mind your finishing the sentence, No, your butt makes you look fat....

Just kidding.!!!!!!




There are times when you could be forced to "hit" a woman, especially if they have an all out assault on you.


But in this instance, a rock???

In Michigan, you would be justified, if he did not stop when ordered to, to shoot him, and the courts, both crimina, and in civil, would not prosecute you.

[NC Bullseye]

Bang. I just saved the taxpayers money. Men who hit women are lower than dogs and should be treated as such. You don't hit a woman, period, let alone this. Rapists, child molesters and wife beaters are just the most vial thing in the world. I won't judge their souls, but in this case I'd arrange the meeting so God can.

Sorry but possession of reproductive organs is not a free pass.

I agree that you can at times avoid hitting a "woman" but a female with intent to cause serious harm or death gets the best I can offer. Underestimating your adversary based on gender could easily be the last mistake you make