Is this only a Florida thing
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I am just asking are we down here just getting a bad ...
August 12th, 2011 12:01 PM
Is this only a Florida thing
As some a board know I am a life long Florida Boy .
I am just asking are we down here just getting a bad name with all the trash latley ??
We had a waitress shot at a drive in Atm this week she will be Ok .
But it seemes more often where seeing more and more violence with firearms .
There has allways been trash in this state but in my now 50 years here its much worse daily .
Stay safe and armed
August 12th, 2011 12:16 PM
There's bad everywhere and it's increasing everywhere. And I do not believe we are even close to as bad as it going to are could get. I really hate saying that and I want to believe there is good in everyone but I know better than to believe it. We could name 100 things that cause the problems and still not even scratch the surface so I'll just blame (insert your own tag here)______________________.
August 12th, 2011 12:18 PM
its a everywhere thing...and the news is down playing it
we are in the midst of a ....something kind of social break down where the police concentrate on arresting this who outwardly have the where withall to pay into the system--hire lawyers, while
not spending much energy arresting, or even trying to catch those who terrorize the streets with drive-bys and open acts of violence; they cost the system money. the social services that cater to the inner city criminals is overwhelmed. in years gone past it was a cash cow that those in power created a justice system that feed on the misery of the poor--more agencies to help those who were deemed needy by those who had the power--and political backing to foist upon the taxpayer social engineering
we are now at a crises where the money is not flowing any longer. do we pay pensions or do we fund services? best is to enforce laws and collect fines from those who can afford it.
and let the animals run free--so long as they only beat each other to a pulp. only when they venture into the suburbs is the news forced to report an 'event' about that which 'doesn't happen in this quite area'
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August 12th, 2011 12:21 PM
Florida seems to have more than its share of crime nowadays. I moved from Orlando back to TN in 1976 and haven't regretted it for a minute.
August 12th, 2011 12:26 PM
I believe we have a new generation of dirt bag coming of age, that is a step lower than previous.
I can speculate why, but that is not really relevant to my observation, and changes nothing.
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August 12th, 2011 12:36 PM
FLA may way be ahead of the curve, or it's just that you aren't seeing reports from other places, violent criminals seem to be everywhere these days and things aren't going to be getting any better because of the lack of opportunities for the uneducated youngsters to make an honest living.
I could get into a huge political rant but I bet y'all know where I would take it.
The best thing people like us can do is train, train and train some more in order to be prepared for the worst, while I hope the worst will never happen the training will pay off it it ever does.
August 12th, 2011 01:10 PM
They're putting something in the oranges down there...
I'm sure it doesn't help that it's a entrance to the country & a tourist draw. More people, more problems.
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August 12th, 2011 01:17 PM
As a born and raised Floridian that's exactly why I no longer live there. Moved about 10 years ago and haven't found a thing since that was worth going back for.
August 12th, 2011 01:40 PM
Criminals like nice weather too.
Florida is also the land of opportunity and criminals like opportunity. People go to Florida to retire (old, vulnerable people who can be conned). People also vacation in Florida and it's not all family vacations in Disney theme parks. They let their hair down and do naughty things that they would rather the folks back in Peoria not hear about, so they are good marks for the criminal element also. And then you have the wealthy in and around Palm Beach. Even the white collar Bernie Madoff type criminal will follow the money. While crime is also happening in other parts of the country, Florida has a lot going for it, if you're a criminal.
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August 12th, 2011 01:56 PM
Florida is not a very safe place, and South Florida is very bad. Yes, firearms laws in Florida are pretty good, but that is about it.
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August 12th, 2011 02:34 PM
August 12th, 2011 02:56 PM
heat - economy - too many mental institutions have been closed - and too many idiots who are lazy and feel entitled.
It's "everywhere" , although OHIO has seemed to be having more than it's fair share lately.
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August 12th, 2011 03:58 PM
It's not only Florida, it's everywhere. I fear we have only seen the tip of the iceberg. As our economy declines, crime will increase. The worse the economy becomes, the worse the crime and violence will become. If the economy should collapse (God forbid) we will be in a state of total anarchy. It will truly be dog-eat-dog. The law enforcement community will not be able to handle it, and I seriously doubt that the military would be able to combat the wave of crime and violence we would be facing.The armed citizenry will be it's own and only means of protection. Scary, and IMO not that far off. Hope I'm wrong...
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August 12th, 2011 04:03 PM
There are dirtbags all over FL, just like all over the country.
Stay armed...stay alert...stay safe!
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August 12th, 2011 04:21 PM
Actually based on the information available that I have looked at, crime has continued on a downward trend over the past 2 decades.
Of course I say this as I look at the 2010 ratings that show our metro area being in the top 10 highest crime areas for the country.
You folks in Florida are going to have to get a grip on your retired population and get them back to work or something so they will stop committing all the crimes down there. The economy must be heck on the folks with a fixed income.
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