This is a discussion on Blew my SA down my legg...or did I??? within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I'll bet when the meter mans wife does his laundry she's in for a surprise. I need to work harder on observing my surroundings also. ...
I'll bet when the meter mans wife does his laundry she's in for a surprise. I need to work harder on observing my surroundings also. I'm in condition white all the time it seems.
I apologized for almost shooting him.
Just curious, if had been someone you didn't recognize, wearing baggy shorts and a "T" shirt down to his knees would you have shot him? I'm sure my hand would have gone to my gun as I turned, but lacking any more signs of a threat, I doubt I would have completed the draw, much less shot the guy. Gotta watch that "Startle Response"! Be careful out there.
For clarification, the OP states that he did not draw (clear leather).
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Sometimes in life you have to stand your ground. It's a hard lesson to learn and even most adults don't get it, but in the end only I can be responsible for my life. If faced with any type of adversity, only I can overcome it. Waiting for someone else to take responsibility is a long fruitless wait.
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Crossman 760 BB/Pellet, Daisy Red Ryder, Crossman Wrist Rocket, 14 Steak Knives, 3 Fillet Knives, Rolling Pin-14", Various Hunting Knives, 2 Baseball Bats, 3 Big Dogs and a big American Flag flying in the yard. I have no firearms; Try the next house.
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Trim the bushes or at least cut out firing lanes.
SA is one of the easieast and most effective ways to prevent the unthinkable from happening concidering most of us do it without
realizing where doing it. Kind of like a common sense thing. Instincts just kicked in automatically. If there is one place that I let my guard down its probably at my home. Thats where mans best friend is a great addition to the family. Always lets you know when someones outside the house. HATES mailman,garbadge man ect.
So you're leaving your home and from behind you're surprised by a person asking "how's it going?" I can see turning to see whom it is. Rule 3 (or 4, depending) is: Be certain of your target and backstop.
Going for the draw prior to that is questionable. Not necessarily wrong, but certainly open to debate and discussion. Does the presence of an unexpected person in this instance constitute a lethal threat warranting lethal force?
Logically - and when it comes to BGs and dirtbags often there is no logic - a person intent on doing you harm in this kind of situation would have the drop on you. You could be turning and drawing into a muzzle. Your action in that case could precipitate your being shot.
So maybe, and I'm just tossing this out for consideration, looking to see the nature of the threat prior to going for the draw might be the better strategy.
That's part of SA. If you're so jumpy that your hand is going for your weapon when doing so isn't required (door slams, car backfires, etc.) then that's something to work on and correct.
To my way of thinking, if somebody wants to get me, all they have to do is hide behind the oak tree in front of my house at about 5:45 am. Wait for me to come out for the paper. Or they could park up the street with a deer rifle and pick me off from 50 yards. Defending against those kinds of threats is possible, but I can't live that way. You shouldn't have to, either. You have a right to have nice grounds and shrubbery. The tradeoff is that you give the ninjas an edge. Fair trade.
"It may seem difficult at first, but everything is difficult at first."
Hey man, get rid of the bushes or trim them shorter. No big deal. Had they been shorter, you would have seen him no problem, I'm sure.
I think you handled yourself just fine. No harm, no foul... But as you found out, tall bushes blocking your view and up close to your house or deck provides a good hiding place for nogoodnicks looking to do evil on you and your family.
It's something which really needs to be addressed. Trim them shorter where you can see, move them, or just plain get rid of them. Consider your little scare as a teachable moment. I don't think you were doing anything wrong as you were leaving your house and locking up. You just couldn't see through that huge barrier. Had they been cut back, I'm sure you would have noticed him as you came out of the house, before you turned to lock your door. Certainly as you walked across the deck moving towards the steps.
Glad everything turned out okay.
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
To be clear, OP this is not criticism directed at you, but a general view of what could happen. Glad you didn't shoot one of your local public servants. :)
The startled reflex of reaching for a weapon from what is considered a friendly "how do you do?" could get you shot and viewed as the aggressor. The greeter could/would be seen as the person exercising self defense against a man that brandished/drew his weapon without just cause if he were to react by drawing and shooting you.
The "thugly" dressed example comes to mind here. Had it been that guy simply saying, "wassup yo?", would that same reaching for the weapon response include more aggressive tactics once the "threat" was addressed? That's for each of us to decide on our own. Just keep in mind that the pivoting, clearing the garment and grabbing the grip of a weapon (imagine if someone did that to you) could cause the other person to see you as a deadly threat and react by drawing on you and firing or engaging in close quarters combat that could eventually lead to a death...or two.
It's understated how important it is to recognize the threat before taking action. Chances are a BG out to get you won't greet you. This ain't Hollywood where they say hello and wait for you to turn around so they can land the perfect punch. If they have gotten that close to you without being recognized, you've probably already lost the fight.
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As others have stated, you did well and it turned out OK. On another note, I bet you get accurate meter readings from now on . Seriously though, I hope the meter reader doesn't' go and tell everyone at work about you, not that anything would happen but I would just hate to read your next post about being served for freaking out some sheep, even though you did nothing wrong. You know how people can be.
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Wow, some one says hows it going from behind you and you start to draw your weapon. I would say you need to work on more they situational awareness. You really need to ratchet down a notch or two unless of course you are in a war zone. Just because someone surprises you doesn't give you the right or need to act like that. The meter man should have called the cops to get your actions on record in case you do more of this crazy stuff and protect himself.