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This is a discussion on Standing in line at the bank within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; This is a real case of late nite's scenario of standing in line at CVS. >>>teller shot<<< For the purposes of this scenario: THE NEXT ...
This is a real case of late nite's scenario of standing in line at CVS.
For the purposes of this scenario:
THE NEXT TIME HE ROBS A BANK, YOU ARE THERE, RECOGNIZE HIM FROM SURVEILLANCE VIDEO, AND...
You are standing at one of the little desks with the chained down pens filling out your deposit slip.
You are at his 4 oclock about 30 degrees off his strong side, and 10 feet behind.
You see the man pull the gun.
What is your course of action from that point on?
It could be worse!
If he pulls a gun, I think he plans to use it on someone, and I'm making sure it's not me.
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More details would be nice. Location of other persons, especially the intervening face of the clock between his 12 o'clock and me at his 4 o'clock.
I would rather not get shot, or get anyone else shot.
My first thought is as follows, if it is clear between his 12 and me. Take a knee behind the desk, for the cover/concealment it might provide and line up the shot. Yell "Hey" with an uncomplimentary remark attached. As he turns, along with his muzzle hopefully, taking it off the teller, take the upward angle shot(s).
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Address, Assess, Aim, Bang Corbon Dpx
If he wasn't taking note of me and there was an easy way out, I'm gone. I'll be outside calling 911 and being a good witness. if he makes me part of the action then I have no choice, game on
I am not usually one to stand around and watch someone get shot if I can help it.
That being said, I always check as I enter the bank to see if there is an armed guard present. One thing I don't want is me taking out a BG and then take one in the chest from the guard. No guard, all bets are off.
I am not fond of being at 4:00, too risky. I would much prefer more out of peripheral view. Judging from the picture, I'm not sure I would notice the gun. If I am at 4:00 and the gun goes off, I would return fire until the threat was over, even if it took all 17 rounds.
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For me I'm looking around to see how many more people are in the bank and determine if any of the others maybe a buddy of his. If his buddy sees me draw he might take me out before I can get a shot off. As another poster said, Be a good witness.
Can't carry firearms in banks in Missouri so I do not go inside... I use drive up tellers and ATMs....
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."
- Roy Batty
Example: glockman10mm, while he had a thoughtful scenario of possibly disarming the guy if it presented itself, probably wouldn't go over so well with a 5'2" fraile female who also had a CCW.
Things to come here: "Is the gun real?" Some will assume yes, some will take the time to try and figure it out as the robbery moves on. Then the next hypothetical will be argued.
It's hard for me to go on without some sarcasm kicking in, but it's not regarding anyone's answers here or in the CVS scene. My sarcasm would come from people not taking into account that a snippet of written hypothetical is very hard to be seen the same by all. All are offering up their best guess and input from what they see. But then, others will comment in amazement of their actions. Namely OP of CVS.
Sorry, rant off now but just a reminder to take into consideration that from a snippet, none of us see it the same.
So, for this post, my answer is, BANG! "Call 911!" Then my right to remain silent would kick in from there. And in court, what would be explained is what I saw, felt and feared when I was placed in that position in greater detail than a picture and short, "what if..."
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one misconception I've seen over and over is this toy gun thing. If a guy presents a gun or something that remotely resembles a gun I am reacting like it is real and we'll sort it out later. if you hesitate it could be a very costly error and if it was a toy, oh well he shouldn't have brought a toy to a gun fight
I personally would kill the guy, but that would make me a vigilante according to many here....the most important question is:
we will NEVER forget....
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