BG gun on innocent shoot no shoot?

This is a discussion on BG gun on innocent shoot no shoot? within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Bubbiesdad For you though, DATD isn't an option, it is the only course of action. If you decide to protect "yourself or ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbiesdad View Post
    For you though, DATD isn't an option, it is the only course of action. If you decide to protect "yourself or yours".
    Well, while we may never agree on this particular subject...I see that you are also in E. Tn. and into bowling and IDPA as well. Seems like we'd probably get along. So instead of arguing I'm just going to agree to diasagree with you on this topic.:)

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    Shoot him with extreme malice, and put the first one right behind the ear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCrulesU View Post
    Well, while we may never agree on this particular subject...I see that you are also in E. Tn. and into bowling and IDPA as well. Seems like we'd probably get along. So instead of arguing I'm just going to agree to diasagree with you on this topic.:)
    Sounds good. Your mention of my profile reminded to change it. I had to give up golf, for reasons of maintaining my sanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    BD, you really do have problems with comprehension, don't you?

    Let me 'splain it to you...

    I did not say that one should be a good witness. I said that is the "correct" answer in Iowa, based on the no longer required permit to carry courses.
    I did say "if you want a shot you have to get his gun on you."
    After a retired LEO answered the scenario with Hey buddy BANG, I clarified my meaning that you have to get the BG's gun off of the clerk (not actually ON you) but I did not make that clear.
    Another retired LEO stated that he agreed with the first... only more derrogatory in order to get BG's FULL attention.

    Now, going to the OP's request for the physiology of the shot... one poster linked to the wikipedia article on the Medulla Oblongata... In fact he posted while I was writing my first response.

    After a few posts the OP chimed in with what he meant by the "physiology of the shot"


    There are concerns as to what can happen after the shot, (legal, civil and otherwise) and I referenced the Omaha Walgreens shooting...
    I also said:


    (red added for this post.)

    I CANNOT GUARANTEE AN MO SHOT, never said I could... If I could, I would shoot him with his gun on the clerk... since I cannot, I choose to attempt to draw his attention to me.. and fire before he is "on me" and after he is off the clerk.

    While you, on the other hand, have said no where in this thread what you would do... you would probably just yap yap yap and tell whoever did anything that they were wrong.... But go ahead and knock yourself out until your fingers are bloody stumps...

    And as to another poster, your comments are not backed up by some "real deal guys" here who are retired, who have met and dealt with more Bubbas than you have met in your life.
    Since this is pointless, I'll just refer to Proverbs 14:7
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    Proverbs 18:2
    Rats!
    It could be worse!
    I suppose

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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    Proverbs 18:2
    Let us both move on from this. I know I have some statements I shouldn't have. There are too many important things going on in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbiesdad View Post
    Let us both move on from this. I know I have some statements I shouldn't have. There are too many important things going on in the world.
    Agreed.
    Rats!
    It could be worse!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    Agreed.
    Saw your profile that you carry a CZ 82. A fine choice, I carry mine occasionally. Dependable, accurate, and it's made to shoot cheap, smokey ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbiesdad View Post
    Saw your profile that you carry a CZ 82. A fine choice, I carry mine occasionally. Dependable, accurate, and it's made to shoot cheap, smokey ammo.
    Yeah, and I'm in QC as well... and soon planing to retire to East TN... can't make too many, errrr... enemies there...
    Rats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    Yeah, and I'm in QC as well... and soon planing to retire to East TN... can't make too many, errrr... enemies there...
    Good folks are always welcome.
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