Woman Being Assaulted

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    Woman Being Assaulted

    You see a woman being brutally attacked by a man on the street. You've seen them around the neighborhood before, this is her abusive boyfriend.

    You are armed, assume you are in this situation and don't respond with what you would have done to avoid it. I was running these various situations in my head today.
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    Having been in a similar situation (unarmed at the time), and the man was abusing her in front of their mentally handicapped son, verbal judo works.
    Today, armed... Stand there, tell the jerk to knock it off, call 911, wait for LEO to come and handle it.
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    I would be on the phone right away to 911. If it is such a beating that it appears she is moments from death i would order the guy to stop with my weapon drawn.For me it would be a question of time. Am i her only hope from being killed. My first reaction is call the police then get into a position where i can pull my firearm from my own vantage point. What i mean is i would not get to close. I would be shouting.Tons of variables can come into play. Is there a weapon are there others rushing in.

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    Based on my experience, and training... Call 9-1-1. Let the police handle it. It's been my experience that many women will turn on her saviour, and side with her abuser. This could result in the arrest of a civilian who intersede on her behalf. The average citizen has no indemnification from civil penalties, and may end up having this same digbat who he tried to help as a deduction of every pay check he draws for the rest of his life. Or worse her abusing boyfriend.

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    I would call 911 like the others and hopefully everyone else will say. I agree that I would command him to stop and if he was about to kill her I would intervene some how. Maybe not with my gun but I would stop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattmann View Post
    I would call 911 like the others and hopefully everyone else will say. I agree that I would command him to stop and if he was about to kill her I would intervene some how. Maybe not with my gun but I would stop it.
    No question I would not stand idle and let a man beat a woman. Would I draw my gun, maybe. But I am going to step in, I'll take the whoopin meant for her if I have to. Any man who stands back and lets it happen isn't a man IMHO.
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    Definitely call 911 first. Then go from there depending on the severity. Try to stop him verbally first, then move up the ladder of force until the situation is handled; doing everything possible to avoid using a firearm. (Which reminds me that I need to get myself some OC spray...)

    I, for one, can't 'take the whoopin' meant for her' because of my back troubles. But I will do my best to stop the beating. If my interceding causes him to draw a weapon- on her or myself- I WILL do whatever is necessary to make sure that both of us survive. SC has a law to cover shooting for someone else if THEIR life is in immediate danger, but I can't remember the name of it at the moment.
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    Domestic situations are violent and dangerous. All the LEOs I've met hate those calls the most. It's difficult to ascertain what is happening (if you don't know the people), and there are not always truly innocent people involved. This scenario gives a more clear cut classic abused GF scenario, which isn't always the case.

    If the woman isn't in immediate mortal danger, I keep my distance, call the cops, and try to de-escalate the situation.

    If the woman is in immediate physical danger the choice is obvious if I can make a clean shot.

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    I have several options on the force continuum before I ever get to deadly force. More tools to choose from makes this kind of decision a non issue. Only deadly force will be countered with deadly force.
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    I agree with smolck, op says she is being brutally beaten. A man can not stand by and do nothing but call 911.

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    When I was 17, a friend of mine & I had our dates and were taking them into a Pizza Hut. A guy was beating the hell of a woman in the parking lot. I made a comment to my friend as we entered the door, "what a jerk, let's call the police". The next thing I knew, I was in the middle of the parking lot being choked off..... his brother was behind me when I made the comment.

    My friend came to my aid ... this guy had me lifted 2 ft off the ground choking me from behind. Once I was "free" .... I wanted to kick his rear..... and here comes 2 other guys... so 3 of them, mid-20's - 30 yrs old, and it's those 3 jumping the 2 of us. We held our own. Police did get called by our dates, got there and got control of things, and everyone backed up that we were defending ourselves..... and they took them to jail.

    I call 911 before I do squat, if I do anything. Years of experiences later, told me how dumb that was...... get back up. And point 2, if you don't know all of the players around you .... you don't know what any of them might do or who may be related to whom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smolck View Post
    No question I would not stand idle and let a man beat a woman. Would I draw my gun, maybe. But I am going to step in, I'll take the whoopin meant for her if I have to. Any man who stands back and lets it happen isn't a man IMHO.
    I understand your point of view. I wonder if you realize that when you step in to save her that it would not be unusual for her to attack you? If you know any cops ask them about it. Its not uncommon.

    I'm not say don't try to help. Just saying that you need to have eyes in the back of your head when you go in.

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    Domestics are the one thing you want to not jump into headfirst with your gun in hand. Chances are that she may turn on you, his friend is nearby, and she will probably testify against you in court. Domestics are a tricky thing that are best left to the professionals. I have handled a few in the last couple weeks and they often do not turn out how you expect. Had one last night that turned out the woman was actually the aggressor and the man was defending himself. We looked at the evidence then ended up taking both of them for domestic battery and PI. It is hard to stand by and do nothing but sometimes doing the "right thing" is not doing the right thing.
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    I had this encounter when I was still immortal (my 20's). In a bar heard shouts and people headed to the windows. Step out the door to see a guy beating the stuffing out of a woman. Several people had called the cops and my friend and I discuss what to do, our dates tell us to stay out of it. The woman goes down and the guy starts kicking the tar out of her. That was it, I ran out and threw the guy on a car hood. He tried to hit me and missed, I am 6'5" and 265 linebacker size, so I pin him to the car in a full Nelson to hold til the cops get there. The woman staggers to her feet with an obviously broken nose and one eye swollen shut, starts screaming that I am going to kill him. I figure she had a few broken ribs from the kicking based on her screams of pain as she tried to swing her purse at my head. Fortunately several others from the bar now had the courage to step out so they took her aside. Cops took him EMT's took her and we gave statements. I got free drinks all night, everyone wins.

    With so many more guns on the street I am not sure I would charge in, but I also know that I cannot watch someone take that kind of beating. So yes I would intervene but no weapon unless he escalates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Spuk View Post
    Based on my experience, and training... Call 9-1-1. Let the police handle it. It's been my experience that many women will turn on her saviour, and side with her abuser. This could result in the arrest of a civilian who intersede on her behalf. The average citizen has no indemnification from civil penalties, and may end up having this same digbat who he tried to help as a deduction of every pay check he draws for the rest of his life. Or worse her abusing boyfriend.
    In high school, I saw a lady being beat up. I told the guy to stop and he went at me..knocked him on his butt, and the girl attacked me. Jumped on my back and was trying to scratch my eyes out. I will call 911 and let the LEO's handle it
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