December 15th, 2011 12:11 PM
Update: as of now I have had no further response from Dominio's. Points I would like to make: 1) Some may consider the driver an independent contractor as all he is doing is delivering a product. Depending on the employment arrangements. 2) I would rather be alive and fired than on a slab. 3) The values of the area will have a huge effect on the final outcome ( conservative vs. liberal) 4) I have a step son who has delivered pizzas for 15 years and I worry about his safety every day. He does not carry. 5) My son just applied for a temp job ( construction) and he must sign a " no guns" agreement or no job.
I am not sure that society "as a whole:" will ever fully accept a persons right to self defense, with a gun, as long liberals refuse to accept that bad people will do bad things and only a gun will stop them.
Wow it's a long way down off this soap box.
In a gun fight, you can not miss fast enough, to catch up.
December 15th, 2011 12:45 PM
You do realize we are talking about the problem being COMPANY POLICY here and most businesses are run by CONSERVATIVES don't you?
Originally Posted by Timezoneguy
Edit: I do believe the right for self defense and the legal right to carry should trump company policy, period.
January 10th, 2013 03:29 AM
Sorry dig up a old thread but I'm a Domino's driver (hopefully not for much longer) and I'm considering getting a CCW. Here's what the employee manual (that I read once, about 10 years ago) says:
Originally Posted by WillyNilly
"FIREARMS AND WEAPONS
possessing*a*weapon*(including*a*firearm)*or*weapo n*paraphernalia*(including*live*ammunition)*while* on*
As you can see, I have no expectation of privacy, even in my own personal vehicle. Corporate policy trumps "shall not be infringed". Mine you, I've had psycho ride inches off my bumper because I cut them off when I was boxed in and trying to exit the highway, been chased at high speed at night by someone with his headlights off for who know what reason, and had someone get out of his car at a light and scream at me because I was a little to close behind him. I called 911 on two of those occasions and the police finally showed up much later. I can't afford to get fired, but I can't afford to be dead even less.
January 10th, 2013 03:34 AM
Don't know what the deal is with the asterisks in the quote, but I did and copy-and-paste from their website: https://tmsc.dominos.com/DpDocLib/hr/HB_Store_2012.pdf
Firearms are covered on page 28.
January 10th, 2013 03:36 AM
You said it. Personally, I'd be damned if I'd let anybody tell me what I could do in my own vehicle, working or not. I'd also not work at Dominos if I could help it. Lose a job, or lose your life. My life is more important.
Originally Posted by JerseyJoe74
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet."
-General James Mattis, USMC
January 10th, 2013 03:42 AM
a) Alive and Unemployed
b) Dead and Unemployed
its your personal choice.
January 10th, 2013 04:02 AM
The 2nd amendment does not apply to workplaces since the Constitution only applies to the government. An employee has the option of no longer working for a company if they do not like their policies/rules. Many companies have other policies/rules that employees do not like yet they continue to work there. The choice is up to each individual whether it is in their best interest to stay with the company.
"One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation."
--Thomas B. Reed, American Attorney
Second Amendment -- Established December 15, 1791
and slowly eroded ever since What happened to "..... shall not be infringed."
January 10th, 2013 06:14 AM
As well, in tort law, a company can be liable for the misconduct of the employees. For this reason, the company might be cautious about employees with guns
January 10th, 2013 06:53 AM
Originally Posted by DocPMD
Although I am not a lawyer, that is not necessarily true here in Wisconsin. From our Dept. of Justice webpage:
"Wisconsin’s concealed carry law does not exempt individual license holders from civil liability for their actions. You could be sued and found liable for property damage, injury, or deaths caused by your actions.
The only liability protection provided by Wisconsin statute is for the following actors:
• A person who does not prohibit an individual from carrying a concealed weapon on property that the person owns or occupies is immune from any liability arising from his or her decision.
• An employer who does not prohibit one or more employees from carrying a concealed weapon is immune from any liability arising from that decision.
• A person providing a firearms training course in good faith is immune from liability from any act or omission related to the course if the course is one of the courses listed in statute."
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
January 10th, 2013 07:15 AM
You can then add every chain pizza place to your list as I think they all follow and have the same stupid policy. You the delivery guy are more expendable (they can always find another sucker at minimum wage) than the lawsuit they fear.
Originally Posted by sureshot1
It's gotta be who you are, not a hobby. reinman45
"Is this persons bad behavior worth me having to kill them over?" Guantes
January 10th, 2013 07:48 AM
It's their football so you kind of have to play by their rules or leave the game. Sorry that's the way it is.
How about a folding baton, pepper spray or a taser. Baseball bats and tire irons will also work in a pinch.
If you understand, things are just as they are... If you do not understand, things are just as they are....
- Zen Saying
January 10th, 2013 12:10 PM
The assailant should have been shot for ordering Dominos!
January 10th, 2013 12:56 PM
Better to be tried by 12 then carried by 6...
As has been stated... A pizza delivery job is not a huge career boost anyway...
No way I would NOT carry doing delivery... even if I were a UPS guy...
RSO, WA. XDMc 9mm, S&W 642CT & 442 38 sp, 1947 Savage 99 300,
1972 Marlin 336 RC .35, 1922 Walther Model 4, 1933 Walther DSM 34, High Standard 1954 22LR
I prefer to be judged by 12 then carried by 6
January 10th, 2013 01:07 PM
These big companys suck .
Originally Posted by gunguy82
Sorry but thet do they dont give a darn bout the employess in these days and time and will tell you that.
Its time that all of them pay threw the nose if am Employee looses life or limb due to there policys.
I have posted bout this on other threads I have been in retial for 30 plus years . (auto service management )
One company I worked for would fire you on spot but made you take huge amounts of cash to bank at very late hours.
Many where robbed I carried there every day
January 10th, 2013 01:11 PM
Believe it or not, I grew up with Domino's CEO and am connected to him on Facebook. I am going to send him a message to ask about this. Will let you know if I hear anything.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." ~ P. J. O'Rourke
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