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Domino Pizza delivery driver fired.

This is a discussion on Domino Pizza delivery driver fired. within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Update: as of now I have had no further response from Dominio's. Points I would like to make: 1) Some may consider the driver an ...

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    Update: as of now I have had no further response from Dominio's. Points I would like to make: 1) Some may consider the driver an independent contractor as all he is doing is delivering a product. Depending on the employment arrangements. 2) I would rather be alive and fired than on a slab. 3) The values of the area will have a huge effect on the final outcome ( conservative vs. liberal) 4) I have a step son who has delivered pizzas for 15 years and I worry about his safety every day. He does not carry. 5) My son just applied for a temp job ( construction) and he must sign a " no guns" agreement or no job.

    I am not sure that society "as a whole:" will ever fully accept a persons right to self defense, with a gun, as long liberals refuse to accept that bad people will do bad things and only a gun will stop them.

    Wow it's a long way down off this soap box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timezoneguy
    Please liberals,you may not care for your life but I surely care for mine. I'll post the corporate reply if/when I get it. <snip> The values of the area will have a huge effect on the final outcome ( conservative vs. liberal) <snip> as long liberals refuse to accept that bad people will do bad things
    You do realize we are talking about the problem being COMPANY POLICY here and most businesses are run by CONSERVATIVES don't you?

    Edit: I do believe the right for self defense and the legal right to carry should trump company policy, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillyNilly View Post
    Do the pizza delivery personels usually drive their own cars? If so they'd be protected under castle doctrine?
    Sorry dig up a old thread but I'm a Domino's driver (hopefully not for much longer) and I'm considering getting a CCW. Here's what the employee manual (that I read once, about 10 years ago) says:

    "FIREARMS AND WEAPONS
    To*the*extent*permitted*by*local*and*state*law,*te am*members*are*prohibited*from*carrying*or*
    possessing*a*weapon*(including*a*firearm)*or*weapo n*paraphernalia*(including*live*ammunition)*while* on*
    duty,*on*company*premises,*or*in*personal*vehicles *being*used*for*company*business*or*company‐
    owned*or*company‐leased*vehicles,*regardless*of*wh ether*the*team*member*has*a*permit*to*carry*a*
    weapon.*The*company*reserves*the*right*to*search*f or*weapons*on*company*premises*or*in*personal*
    vehicle*used*for*company*business*or*company‐owned *or*company‐leased*vehicles*to*the*extent*
    permitted*by*local*and*state*law.**Team*members*sh ould*have*no*expectation*of*privacy*on*company*
    premises,*including*company*parking*lots,*or*in*pe rsonal*vehicles*used*for*company*business*or*
    company‐owned*or*company‐leased*vehicles."

    As you can see, I have no expectation of privacy, even in my own personal vehicle. Corporate policy trumps "shall not be infringed". Mine you, I've had psycho ride inches off my bumper because I cut them off when I was boxed in and trying to exit the highway, been chased at high speed at night by someone with his headlights off for who know what reason, and had someone get out of his car at a light and scream at me because I was a little to close behind him. I called 911 on two of those occasions and the police finally showed up much later. I can't afford to get fired, but I can't afford to be dead even less.
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    Don't know what the deal is with the asterisks in the quote, but I did and copy-and-paste from their website: https://tmsc.dominos.com/DpDocLib/hr/HB_Store_2012.pdf

    Firearms are covered on page 28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyJoe74 View Post
    Sorry dig up a old thread but I'm a Domino's driver (hopefully not for much longer) and I'm considering getting a CCW. Here's what the employee manual (that I read once, about 10 years ago) says:

    ...

    As you can see, I have no expectation of privacy, even in my own personal vehicle. Corporate policy trumps "shall not be infringed". Mine you, I've had psycho ride inches off my bumper because I cut them off when I was boxed in and trying to exit the highway, been chased at high speed at night by someone with his headlights off for who know what reason, and had someone get out of his car at a light and scream at me because I was a little to close behind him. I called 911 on two of those occasions and the police finally showed up much later. I can't afford to get fired, but I can't afford to be dead even less.
    You said it. Personally, I'd be damned if I'd let anybody tell me what I could do in my own vehicle, working or not. I'd also not work at Dominos if I could help it. Lose a job, or lose your life. My life is more important.
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    Hmmmmm

    a) Alive and Unemployed

    or

    b) Dead and Unemployed

    its your personal choice.
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    The 2nd amendment does not apply to workplaces since the Constitution only applies to the government. An employee has the option of no longer working for a company if they do not like their policies/rules. Many companies have other policies/rules that employees do not like yet they continue to work there. The choice is up to each individual whether it is in their best interest to stay with the company.
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    Second Amendment -- Established December 15, 1791 and slowly eroded ever since What happened to "..... shall not be infringed."

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    As well, in tort law, a company can be liable for the misconduct of the employees. For this reason, the company might be cautious about employees with guns
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocPMD View Post
    While I do not like the policy, I certainly understand it. It would be a huge liability for any company to allow their employees to carry lethal weapons. At the very least they would need to ensure that their employees were properly trained.

    Tough to avoid the rocky road of a political discussion when talking about subjects such as these, but the unfortunate reality of our current state is that the bad guys seem to have more rights/support than the good guys. Especially from a civil point of view.

    Until that reality changes, I wouldn't let an employee of mine carry, either. I completely agree with and understand Domino's policy.

    Just an opinion,
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    Although I am not a lawyer, that is not necessarily true here in Wisconsin. From our Dept. of Justice webpage:



    "Wisconsin’s concealed carry law does not exempt individual license holders from civil liability for their actions. You could be sued and found liable for property damage, injury, or deaths caused by your actions.
    The only liability protection provided by Wisconsin statute is for the following actors:
    • A person who does not prohibit an individual from carrying a concealed weapon on property that the person owns or occupies is immune from any liability arising from his or her decision.
    An employer who does not prohibit one or more employees from carrying a concealed weapon is immune from any liability arising from that decision.
    • A person providing a firearms training course in good faith is immune from liability from any act or omission related to the course if the course is one of the courses listed in statute."
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    Quote Originally Posted by sureshot1 View Post
    No more Dominos pizza for me !!
    You can then add every chain pizza place to your list as I think they all follow and have the same stupid policy. You the delivery guy are more expendable (they can always find another sucker at minimum wage) than the lawsuit they fear.
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    It's their football so you kind of have to play by their rules or leave the game. Sorry that's the way it is.
    How about a folding baton, pepper spray or a taser. Baseball bats and tire irons will also work in a pinch.
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    The assailant should have been shot for ordering Dominos!
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    Better to be tried by 12 then carried by 6...

    As has been stated... A pizza delivery job is not a huge career boost anyway...

    No way I would NOT carry doing delivery... even if I were a UPS guy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunguy82 View Post
    Well if the job won't let you defend yourself, first off they can take a long walk off a short bridge from a mountain, second are they gonna pay for lost time at work? Hospital bills? Death benefits burial costs and all the other bills?
    These big companys suck .

    Sorry but thet do they dont give a darn bout the employess in these days and time and will tell you that.

    Its time that all of them pay threw the nose if am Employee looses life or limb due to there policys.

    I have posted bout this on other threads I have been in retial for 30 plus years . (auto service management )

    One company I worked for would fire you on spot but made you take huge amounts of cash to bank at very late hours.

    Many where robbed I carried there every day

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    Believe it or not, I grew up with Domino's CEO and am connected to him on Facebook. I am going to send him a message to ask about this. Will let you know if I hear anything.
    "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." ~ P. J. O'Rourke

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