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What do you do?
At this point hope, they take the money and leave...
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If someone breaks into my house I don't see them having time to take my wife and kids to the other room. They will be busy trying to keep me from killing them. My action starts with the breaking of the door. And there will be blood on the floor. (Theirs or mine)
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My Dogs could live on virus infected maggot vomit and still beg for more,,,,,,,but provided the thugs got past the trip wire along the outer perimeter, thus not enabling the silent alarm to the machine gun bunkers at all four quadrants of my compound, I would be coming up swinging as whec has said. They are not there to make nice nice, and most likely plan on doing you and your family in anyway.
Take as many out as you can, and maybe they will pansy out and head for the tall grass.
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Two minutes after taking my wife they'd be giving her back and leaving with their hands over their ears!
If you wish for peace, prepare for war.
What would I do??
Assuming one has my wife and kids tied up in the back and guarding them... I'd show the other 2 to the safe (containing no money, but more ammo and in the room with my 12g :) during this time I'm trying to look for my opening, anything that will give me some sort of chance... Action is faster than reaction and I'm about to be the one doing the acting now, I'm now leading to the safe and they are following me...
My last chance is when I enter the Bedroom with safe and shotgun, at this point its them or me.. I have to act now whether I kill them or they kill me is irrelevant, I will not be tied up I'll die first... I try to hit COM on the BG closest to me, hopefully at this point the BG's are stacked at the door allowing me basically a 1v1 gunfight since they are stacked in the door...
At this point if i'm still alive I believe BG in the back will do 1 of 2 things-he will either come running to see whats happening and meet the 00 buck in the shotgun I now have OR he will go running out the back door with a brown stain in his pants (most likely)...
I like to believe this is how it would all go down, I'm not saying I am any sort of expert gunfighter... I will say that when the burglars start tying people up it is time to start fighting to either win or take them with you at all costs... I realize the horrible things that could happen to my wife and kids if I died fighting, but if they tie me up then I no longer even have that option... JMO
It would never happen like that here.... the first guy thru the door gets shot, and if the 2nd wants to follow, he will be as well. You have to know the layout of my house, very well planned for things... I can see both front and back door from the dining room. Even if all 3 hit the door at the same time, the advantage would be mine, because their movement would be limited and crowded, as mine wouldn't.
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I have been a victim of two HIRs.
I can say UNEQUIVOCALLY say; "IF" my gun is within reach, this type of scenario will NOT progress to leading my wife & family to another room where they can be systematically executed while they are bound & gagged.
UNH UNH; NO WAY that will happen as long as I'm breathing!
PERIOD! Exclamation point! Underscore!
During one of the HIRs my stepfather & I chased the four armed intruders out of the house with our own firearms. During the other one I was alone & unarmed. After a sort struggle where I was beaten down to the ground, I fained compliance and bided my time until I was able to reach my SG. Once I became armed the BGs left post haste! (I would NOT have complied if anyone had attempted to bind & gag me.)
Last edited by tcox4freedom; December 7th, 2011 at 05:43 PM.
I would just politely say, "How many times do I have to tell you SWAT guys, that the drug Lord lives in the next house. He has all the cocaine and heroine."
Then I would draw and kill them all.
Give to them according to their deeds and according to the wickedness of their endeavors; give to them according to the work of their hands; render to them their deserts. Psalm 28:4
First of all, alarm system or not, the house is not reasonably secure if three guys are able to bust right in and catch you by surprise with your fork in your mouth at the dinner table.
I don't have an alarm system, but I can assure you, three, four, five or six guys are not just busting into my house and catching me off guard. It would take a concerted and determined effort to get through my doors and security film on my windows. In that time, I would have plenty of time to finish dinner, do the dishes and then go arm myself and meet them as they finally bust through.
Okay, not do the dishes, but you get my point. My house is certainly not impenetrable, but it is "reasonably secure." (Also, both my wife and I are always armed inside the house. If not a full size pistol in a holster, at least Ruger LCP's in our pockets).
In the scenario you outline where you don't have a "reasonably secure house", but merely a flimsy door lock and thugs bust right in, totally surprising you, there is very little a person is going to be able to do.
You are pretty much bound by either complying, and "hoping" for an opportunity to turn the tables (I call it the "hope & pray" strategy), or making a suicidal attempt at stopping them when they clearly have the advantage (I call it the "die like a viking" strategy).
I don't see much else you're going to be able to do as described in the scenario given.
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."