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My life and my carry defensive weapon are for myself and my wife and three young daughters. I will use and risk my life/freedom for them alone. I will call 911, follow their instruction, and be prepared to bare witness.
The LEOs can handle everyone elses business. That is their job, not mine.
Nope! At my age there would only be two hits. I'd get hit and I'd hit the ground...
I'm far less likely to get a beat-down in my golf club locker room than, say, a seedy bar in a "bad" part of town.
I posit that those who wish to live long, happy lives without needing to use their ccw ALWAYS modify their lives and the places they go. I sure do. I have been doing it for decades.
I think MadMac has a point. I chose to buy a house where there is no crime. I hardly drive to the rougher parts of town very often even the the good ethnic restaurants are there (saves me gas too). I do go...just not as often as safer places and rarely at night. I do modify my behavior, especially when with my girlfriend. It isn't like I stay hidden at home but I do consider safety. That said, I'll walk into mountain lion country quite happily. :)
Albert Camus once said, "Life is the sum of all your choices." How true.
Perhaps this is a less 'extreme' example of an altered behavior choice I made just tonight: I needed gas, but noticed the easily-accessed station with the cheaper gas had a gaggle of youths hanging around. I decided to drive on to a better-lit, albeit more expensive station to buy my gas there. I made a choice, and modified my behavior accordingly. It was a very small chance I would have encountered any trouble with the loitering youngsters, but I altered my behavior to better manage my personal risk.
You can choose to feel it's your right to use the first station, or you can modify your behavior based on signs that indicate an (admittedly slight) elevation in risk. We do it all the time, sometimes unknowingly. It's a very human trait. People who choose to go to "stupid" places like seedy bars, dark alleys, or dodgy neighborhoods also are making a choice.
Those that claim they don't change their behavior to manage risk are simply not aware when they do so, or they are lying. Deciding to apply for a CHP and carrying around a ccw is testimony to modified risk management behavior in itself.
Sure, anything can happen to anyone, but I like playing the odds in my favor to limit my risks. YMMV.
Carrying or not carrying, the same rules apply. If a physical confrontation is avoidable - avoid it. If it's absolutely not avoidable - defend yourself. If you carry you SHOULD be smart enough to know what sort of situation would call for drawing your gun and which situation doesn't.
Well put! Short and sweet.
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No one is even talking about who's at fault. It doesn't matter who is at fault. If you are assaulted by chosing to be in a "stupid" place, it's YOU who will have to live with the consequences. Fault has nothing to do with it.
If you choose a risky lifestyle, it's your safety that is in jeopardy.
Last edited by MadMac; March 29th, 2012 at 08:09 AM.
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Those who would, deny, require permit, license, certification, or authorization for me to bear arms are as vile, dangerous & evil as those who would molest, abuse, assault, rape or murder my family
I have injured too many fists with my face and would only get into a fist fight if I had no other option. At my age I try to restrain the adrenaline and primativee response and use my brain.
Yoda, I am, yes.