To the OP, yes I would.
To the OP, yes I would.
the OP asked about Drawing anainst a gun.
so for those of us who have a 642 or equilivant in a vest or coat pocket--
that was not part of the answer. even though it is what we wouldmost likely be
making our plans around.
i stand by my answer. and as for Mad being himself, is anyone suprised?
There is a YouTube video of a hotel clerk being robbed. There was a second person behind the desk and they guy used her to hide him drawing. The other part was there was a customer that was at the desk and had a 3-4 year old child sitting on the counter. The outcome was that the BG was the only one hurt. There were so many things that could have gone wrong, but they didn't. The point here is that the BG had the drop, but the GG used a distraction to engage.
While not saying it was the best thing to do, in the heat of the moment, I am sure the GG feared for his life and the others there. If he didn't engage and the BG started shooting, they all would have been in trouble. I guess the moral of the story is you've got seconds to access the risks and your options. The BG, once he determined the odds where not stacked in his favor started to disengage, but the action plan was already in play by the time he made that call.
I guess in the end it depends on the options and calculated outcomes determined in the blink of an eye.
Found the video, likely already seen by many.
Good guy 1, Bad guy 0, CCW in action unedited - YouTube
I got my carry permit to protect myself and others indeed. But, I was protecting myself with situational awareness, the study of human behavior, and avoiding likely areas of violence by using my gray matter long before I carried a gun.
Situational awareness is great and keep us out of lots of trouble BUT the OP did not ask how to use SA. He is asking what and how to handle the situation after we have already found ourselves behind the 8 ball.
SA is great and we all need to work on it but if you can be aware of everything going on around you 24/7 I have to ask. How do you get anything else done in your life? Also if you are SO good with SA, Why do you carry a gun? You will always avoid any bad situation.
I go with the thoughts that "SH** Can Happen" so prepare the best you can and know your limitations, then act accordingly. This is done by practice and training to the point you just know what you can do. It's not I think I could maybe do that, you know because you've done it in training.
Yep it takes money and time to do all that but how bad do you need it and how bad do you want to live if you do?
Just an OLD MAN'S thoughts
How many that have responded have a spouse (or whatever) that carries? My wife carries. If a BG stopped us he has two Sigs to contend with. We have discussed this before and I would be reaching for my EDC like I was reaching for my wallet. This gives her time to draw and she is a quick little thing:smile:. This moves the advantage to us. Just curious if there is a plan with your companion. Moving off the X and drawing is good but not good if your family is behind you and he has time to get a shot off. Something as simple as I will move left and you move right could be decisive.
If he has the drop on me from more than two feet away but less than 15-20, it would be a losing proposition. It would depend on how focused he was. If he was super close to me, I'd consider disarming him based on how strong he looks. I have had years of martial arts and some wrestling training, and I bet I could easily take his gun away- especially if he was holding with one hand. Still, I am no macho man looking for a hole in me. If he simply wanted money or my car, he can have it. I am not wasting myself over property....ever. I would draw or attack if I was quite sure he was going to shoot me...just need to buy time with offer of more money maybe. Heck, I'd offer to drive to an ATM or anything to buy time...and an opportunity. The BG is motivated by something. More of it may be a way to buy time and opportunities. I have been in one bad situation, was unarmed, and talked my way out of it. That was a bad day but my calm demeanor and lies got me out of it. My stupidity got me into it, but that is another story. :)
obviously it's highly situtation dependent but I'd probably just give him the wallet unless I truely believed he was going to shoot anyway or something else besides just robbery was likely. There are not too many of these types who are skilled with a handgun ... I've seen more than one security video where these types point & shoot at someone inside of 10 ft & still miss ...
"would you draw on a gun?"
Only with a pencil.
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