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    My girlfriend lives about 20 miles from where I leave - she lives in a safe neighborhood (I know, no such thing). Recently, there have been a string of armed robberies where the dirtbag criminal will hide behind some garbage cans, wait for the woman to leaver her car and then rob her at gun point (takes their purses). The dirbag criminal has been doing this for a few months successfully with the same M.O. So likely he'll continue until he runs into the business end of a .45 ACP or gets caught. I wonder if anyone can help me make sure I have done everything possible to be prepared/prevent my girlfriend from being the next victim.
    • Motion detection light on the driveway. I want to install another set on the side of the house where the garbage cans are and use a slightly different color light. That way if she is ever driving up, and that side light trips, she'll know something/someone is on the side of the house.
    • Drive up to her garage, scan to the garbage can side, scan to the other sides while driving up, scan back to the garbage can side as she pulls into the garage with her car.
    • As she pulls in, scan both mirrors to see if the dirtbag criminal is sneaking up to the left or right.
    • Leave car running, stay in the car, while she lowers the garage door. Only turn the car off when the garage door is about a foot from full close.
    • Have a dummy purse in her car at all times and if confronted, give the bad guy the dummy purse.


    Any other things you can recommend? I am a CCW holder, martial arts person, firearms training from good friend in the Police Department and on going training at Front Sight. We are starting to spend more time training her at the range too. Would really appreciate anyone's additional ideas here. Take care.

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    Maybe your girlfriend should be prepared to show the potential dirtbag the business end of a 'lead catapulting/projection machine'...she needs a firearm and training.
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    I would take the front bumper of the car and smash in to the garbage cans. If he is hidding behind the cans problem over.

    Sounds like you are doing everything correct
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    Move the garbage cans, do not let them be a point of advantage. Have her very her routine. Get her training and a CCW. For now get her a less lethal option, that complies with the laws of your state. Above all, make sure she keeps her SA up, if it looks out of place, she should get out, and call 911. Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Maybe your girlfriend should be prepared to show the potential dirtbag the business end of a 'lead catapulting/projection machine'...she needs a firearm and training.
    "We are starting to spend more time training her at the range too." :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKinNY View Post
    I would take the front bumper of the car and smash in to the garbage cans. If he is hidding behind the cans problem over.

    Sounds like you are doing everything correct
    The garbage cans are on the side of the house and there is a chin link fence. in the past, we've not been super disciplined about closing it (some times we've left it 1/2 open out of sheer laziness). But now, we're both trying to develop the routine to look at the gate and see that the clasp is shut. We do this when at her house and when leaving. I can't believe how mad I am at the dirtbag criminal for terrorizing the entire neighborhood.

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    Put dog poop all around the cans so if he hides behind them he won't stay there.
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    Put a lock on the gate,if he comes out he will have to take an extra second or two to hop the fence,if Washington allows you to be armed on your property she should have a revolver in her pocket as she exits the car grip the revolver in her pocket,if dirtbag attacks draw and end his career
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    If you know there is a potential threat or until perp is caught, you should escort her home and check around her residence before leaving. He is targeting a low crime area as the residents have a false sense of security and not as street smart as higher crime areas. You have the CCW and training investment so make use of it. If something were to happen, I'd think you'd kick yourself. You're her man. Man up!

    Otherwise, I think she should back the car to the garage but not open the garage door yet. Then scan 360 degrees, open the garage door with remote, back in car while continually scanning. With car pointing forward, she can easily take off. If all clear, then close garage door and shut engine.

    Do know what you can and cannot do for use of lethal force for self defense. Look at this news link to a shooting. I think this guy might be in trouble Sanford police release 911 calls in teen's shooting death | www.wftv.com.

    Run through some practice scenarios at her place.

    A watch dog in the yard is a consideration. Or maybe a Taser (http://www.mrsc.org/subjects/pubsafe...uns.aspx#Local). Or someone move closer together .

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    I would suggest you tell her to get some training and a CCW. IF she doesn't want to, then it is her loss. You could also ask her to move into your home as the bad guy isn't in your area. Have you started a neighborhood watch? And what about security cameras? You can get some that she will be able to view through a smartphone.

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    Don't put a motion light on the side of the house...

    Instead, hammer some really sharp wooden spikes into the ground on the side of the house and place a trip wire 2-3 feet in front of them. That will fix this night prowler...


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    Welcome to the forum.

    As others have already said, get her training. Not only in firearms, but in close in H2H confrontation. I'd also get her some OC to have in her hand as she exits her car. The most important thing though is to drill into her the importance of practicing good situational awareness at all times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    Move the garbage cans, do not let them be a point of advantage. Have her very her routine. Get her training and a CCW. For now get her a less lethal option, that complies with the laws of your state. Above all, make sure she keeps her SA up, if it looks out of place, she should get out, and call 911. Good luck
    Great idea about varying her routines. I missed that one. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtho150 View Post
    All the training in the world is useless if she doesnt have the mindset to fight. Make sure she has the mindset to defend herself and is willing to really hurt the attacker before firearm , martial arts training. With out her being willing to take the other person out, it is a waste of resources training her.
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    So a little more background here. We have discussed this many many times. In fact, I didn't want her getting her CCW unless she got to the point in her mind that she developed the ultimate surveyors instinct. By way of background, she had a situation in her background when she was in college that she and her roommate got home late one evening and were in their bedroom of their apartment talking and a man had made his way into their bedroom from the window. Lots of problems, issues, and vulnerabilities on that situation - not the purpose of this thread. But I tell you that to let you know that we have spoken a lot about this and she is now there mentally due to that first incident in her life. So many of her friends think she over racing by training with weapons, developing home invasion scenarios, learning how to use things like flashlights, kubotans, etc I know we can't prepare for every scenario but i want to prepare us as best we can given that I don't live there and can't always be there to handle things.

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