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    I could give a simple and straightforward answer, but I'd probably be violating forum rules regarding political discussion.
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    One of the related videos is on Columbine, and you can hear the teacher yelling to the students to get under their desks. In light of this video, clearly you could not do anything worse than be dispersed throughout the room in line of sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    This should be mandatory viewing for every classroom on the planet.
    Should. But will never happen as long as they have the "it will never happen here" type of mind set
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    Most schools preparation for an active shooter scenario is to lock down the school. Basically I was taught that teachers should lock their classroom doors and students should basically cower and wait to be shot.

    I always said that if I knew the shooter was in another part of the building I would be getting out as soon as possible.

    I'm not waiting for some psycho to come kill me!
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    I posted this a while ago, but I thought it would be a relevant reminder.

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    Excellent (IF) practiced regularly by students and teachers.
    One seminar may be better than nothing, though I seriously doubt they will remember when or if a crisis strikes.
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    It's better than nothing, which is exactly what most schools have right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott625 View Post
    One of the related videos is on Columbine, and you can hear the teacher yelling to the students to get under their desks. In light of this video, clearly you could not do anything worse than be dispersed throughout the room in line of sight.
    Actually, being dispersed would be better than being bunched together and huddling in a closet like some during the most recent shooting. At least then the shooter would have to target each one individually.

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    What you saw in the video is just a fraction of what is taught in the program, so please don't lose sight of that before criticizing.

    It is a complete program designed to be adopted by schools and or school districts in which part of the program includes remedial training and drills on a scheduled basis. It's not like a one day deal where they go in and show people how to do it once and that's it. There should be at least a quarterly drill for students and faculty alike.

    Ideally, a school will also invest to have a couple of staff members trained as ACT certified instructors so they can actually adminster the training and program on site in the school in which they work.
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    That info is awesome, very basic and easy to employ.

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    Right on. Grab the bull by the horns.
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    Re: Active school shooter response - for unarmed.

    I'm glad this old post was resurrected....

    That said, it won't work for K-5 grades like CN.

    Can't see a bunch of 6-8 year olds with crayons and finger paints stopping an active shooter.

    The school in CN. was locked. The gunman broke in. No armed guards, no armed teachers. A building full of victims.

    For a reasonable working solution, we can increase the size of the "GUN FREE ZONE" sign, OR we can look to the Israelis, who arm adults in the schools, you decide.
    Rats!
    It could be worse!
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    I think this is a good program, but I wonder about its efficacy if the shooter knows where the defenders will be. The video presumes the shooter will barge right in.

    Given that most shooters (not all as we have seen this week) are students of the target school, it is probable that they will have gone through this training. It is also probable they will be familiar with the room layouts in the school. If they have been so trained and know where the defenders will be, they will know where to shoot for maximum effect. If the shooter takes out the two defenders how long will it take the rest to understand what happened and react accordingly.

    Don't get me wrong, I think the program is good and, even in the worst case would dramatically reduce the body count. I do wonder, however, if/how it deals with a shooter who knows the defense/ambush plan.
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