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This is a discussion on Encounter at the park within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by MadMac Which just goes to show even pro-gun people mistrust open carry folks. I don't think it was the mistrusting of the ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMac View Post
    Which just goes to show even pro-gun people mistrust open carry folks.
    I don't think it was the mistrusting of the open carry, it was his attitude that planted the seed of mistrust in general. If the "Gentleman" had been kind smiled back, or also said hello, then the the thought of his having a permit or not probably wouldn't have been planted. Once one mistrusts someone else, excuses for justifying the mistrust become rampant.

    We are often left with thinking our first impression is always correct, but after reading the other posts, we realize that sometimes people are having a really bad day. I know sometimes I can appear gruff, when I just don't know how to respond to someone when I am having a really bad day, even though I am a super nice guy! (really, I am).
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    Bad day or not when someone politely says hello I make a point to say hello back. But when I say hello and it is returned with a scoff I just let it roll off . I'm happy , not my problem he is a jerk. Hope he didn't ruin your day with your son!
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    Similar but different... years back in Alaska, my buddy and I take a break from fishing and decide to drive in to the State Park a bit further to check out the waterfalls. I stow the 12g slug gun I've been slinging (I consider anything below .454 "bear spray") but my bud keeps his Blackhawk in its shoulder holster. We walk up the trail a bit towards the falls, passing a couple day-old at best piles of bearcrap dead-center of the trail... it is the salmon run after all.

    While we're at an overlook area, some folks show up and ask my friend what's up with the gun. He just says "Bears."

    They say - "Well, we heard they stay on the other side of the river." (Now, they've walked up the same path we have, btw).

    We chuckle a bit and return to watching the waterfall. After they leave, my friend says:

    "How 'bout you yell 'Bear, bear!' really loud and I'll touch off a few into the woods?"

    We didn't of course, but we still laugh about that time today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwep9419 View Post
    I couldn’t help but wonder if he had a permit, seeing that a permit is required to carry in the state park system;

    I would have called the local police on this guy if I were in the same situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calling45 View Post
    I would have called the local police on this guy if I were in the same situation.
    Really....Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    Really....Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calling45 View Post
    I would have called the local police on this guy if I were in the same situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerberos View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMac View Post
    Which just goes to show even pro-gun people mistrust open carry folks.
    The way I read it he didn't mistrust the OC because he was OC'ing, but instead because of his attitude/actions!

    This thread is just another example of how to start an OC vs CC thread.

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    Careful kerberos, you will most likely be hearing from a moderator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calling45 View Post
    I would have called the local police on this guy if I were in the same situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbiesdad View Post
    Careful kerberos, you will most likely be hearing from a moderator.
    Wouldn't be the first time...

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    People are not going to be more or less friendly because they have a gun on their hip. Infact, if you read enough of these scenarios you'll notice that people that are carrying are less friendly because of their "SA" and their preparedness to defend themselves. If I saw someone open carrying I wouldn't worry about it. It would appear that they have "less to hide" than someone concealed carrying. Someone that isn't legal is more likely to wear a gun in a concealed method than on their hip where it can be noticed and questioned (as it is being questioned here). I conceal carry exclusively unless I am working on my house or doing something active at home. I see people mention the "tactical advantage" of concealed carry vs open but I don't understand that completely. It seems like the advantage is only to surprise someone before you defend yourself instead of first letting them know you are armed.

    Anyway, I think there wasn't much to worry about here.

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    Each type of carry has its merits. Unfortunately, there are grumpy, armed people (I think it tends to tarnish the 2A movement). I think you did well to be more alert if you felt uneasy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    Really....Why?
    Because he was open carrying in a public park and, although less a reason, because of his attitude.
    Based on the description it sounds like he was up to no good and if he wasn't.....then no harm done.

    Here is something from the Wisconsin State Legislature.
    Even though it's an open carry state you can't do that in a public park.


    29.089(2)
    (2) Except as provided in sub. (3), no person may have in his or her possession or under his or her control a firearm on land located in state parks or state fish hatcheries unless the firearm is unloaded and enclosed within a carrying case.

    29.089(3)
    (3) A person may hunt deer, elk, wild turkeys, or small game in a state park , or in a portion of a state park , if the department has authorized by rule the hunting of that type of game in the state park , or in the portion of the state park , and, except as provided in s. 29.063 (5), if the person holds the approvals required under this chapter for hunting that type of game.


    These are the reasons I would call the local authorities.


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