Hand to hand combat

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  • Military training

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  • LEO training

    36 26.28%
  • Civilian training

    73 53.28%
  • No H2H skills

    24 17.52%
  • I can pulverize anyone I meet

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    Hand to hand combat

    I have a fair amount of LE H2H combat training. I have found it to be useful and neccessary when going about armed. What do you think?
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    I have zero h2h skills, although I do watch UFC frequently! haha. Im not a fighter, Ive only been in 2 or 3 fights in my whole life. Impressive wouldn't you say?
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    I took several forms of martial arts from grade school to H.S graduation.

    And now in College, we have training available through our local PD at their academy and exclusively for CRIJ students. Counts as 3 credit hours of P.E as a bonus.
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    I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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    I've been in Martial Arts my whole life...Been in a lot of fights when I was younger. "I pulverize anyone I meet." lol You know what's funny, my last fight was sometime before I took my gun safety class to get my CCW. After I got my CCW I stopped being the instigator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
    I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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    LE and martial arts training. I find it compliments carrying very well.
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    Gun on, pride off - that is a great saying! Haven't heard that one before.
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    I voted "military training" in the poll, but it's been 20 (really? Yes.) years. Unarmed H2H training really does complement gun training. I've done a little recently, and it's opened my mind a little bit.

    Once you practice, I mean really practice, physically, with someone and the two of you are trying to clean each other's clocks in order to practice techniques and actually get better, you'll appreciate your guns a whole LOT more.

    With my XD I've got 13 elbows to the side of the head at my disposal, and I don't have to exhaust myself or get so close.....

    BTW, FWIW, I'd encourage anyone on here to take a look toward Western Martial Arts (not that anything's bad about the stuff from Japan, Korea, China, etc.), but it's way easier (at least for me) to pick up on.

    It's also a little more concentrated on eliminating the threat and less on aesthetics and philosophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randytulsa2 View Post
    Once you practice, I mean really practice, physically, with someone and the two of you are trying to clean each other's clocks in order to practice techniques and actually get better, you'll appreciate your guns a whole LOT more.
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    Wellll...

    I put down military and civilian because, though I've never been in the military, I was trained by a former Army Ranger and that stuff was incorportated. My Navy SEAL cousin confirmed it last get-together.

    Originally I took Muy Tai (sp?) kickboxing and then later, the mixed martial arts.

    I would probably suggest a mixture of old-form Western boxing and Greco-Roman wrestling for anyone who wishes to take something that is strictly self-defense.

    The problem with the modern boxing stance is that, with your fists right in front of your face, I will just drill your fist INTO your face. Keep your elbows at greater than 90 degrees.

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    No skills, unless you count dangerous flatulence.

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    Mostly LEO.
    Some civilian training as well.
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    I've had civilian,military and LEO training.

    I used to box and thai-box when I was in the military. It was a great way to keep in shape. I trained for 10 years in Honto Ryu and used to do full contact matches,not the tournament grade crap for points, the knockout type where you fight to keep the other guy from knocking your head off. There is a world of difference.

    I really had to tone it down for LEO training. Most of the young punks had never been in a fight. I actually thought the h2h LEO training was pretty worthless.It concenetrated more on how NOT to hurt someone, rather than to win at all costs.Thats great for a lot of stuff, but when someone wants to kill you, you need to try to kill him first, not worry about "hurting him".

    In my LEO endeavors, the most usefull thing that I have put to good use was Pressure Points and compliance techniques. I've been in a few good fights, and they were over relativley quickly, not lasting more than a minute of two at the most. Simple leg take downs and good ole boxing techniques go a long way here also.
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    I too was taught by a former Army Ranger, but I put down civilian. MMA, heavily slanted toward Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu submissions, but with some Judo, Boxing and even Sambo tossed in for good measure.

    The funniest part of it is that he was a seminary student (now graduated--Navy Chaplain now), and so am I. And so was most of the rest of the MMA class. We dubbed it the "seminary fight club."


    Also learned a couple disarming techniques...can never have enough of those.

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