What really happened? Man shoots self, wife, during gun safety class

What really happened? Man shoots self, wife, during gun safety class

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    What really happened? Man shoots self, wife, during gun safety class

    Man Accidentally Shoots Self, Wife at Gun Safety Course

    A man accidentally shot himself and his wife at a gun safety course in Virginia, The Roanoke Times reported Tuesday.

    Michael Deel, 54, from Roanoke, Va., shot himself in the hand with a .45-caliber handgun during the course on Saturday afternoon, and the bullet then passed through his hand and hit his wife Michelle, who was seated next to him, in the leg.

    Bedford County Sheriff's Office and rescue units attended the scene.

    Course leader Thomas Starke, 57, told officers that he left the room temporarily, heard a gunshot and came back in to find that the couple had been shot, police said.

    The couple was taken to the Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

    Investigators are probing the shooting.


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    Use your imagination to come up with the best explanation of what really happened. Let your thoughts run wild. Here's my take on the scenario: total lack of gun safety awareness on both the instructor's and instructees' parts. The instructor should never have left the room, if there was a loaded gun in it. The man should never have picked up a loaded gun without checking it, checking it again, unloading it, etc. If he didn't know how to unload it, he shouldn't have picked it up without the instructor being present and without the instructor's guidance.
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    The guy is an Idiot and eventually that always catches up to you.

    Can argue about gun being loaded or the instructor leaving the room but it all comes down to the guy is an Idiot and there is no cure for that.
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    It sounds like the instructor was not doing a good job instructing but the gun owner should take some responsibly for not following the basic rules

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    What really happened, he violated every rule of safe gun handling.
    When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
    "Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkh View Post
    The guy is an Idiot and eventually that always catches up to you.

    Can argue about gun being loaded or the instructor leaving the room but it all comes down to the guy is an Idiot and there is no cure for that.
    Inexperienced students are supposed to be idiots, hence the basic pistol/safety class. It all comes down to an instructor asleep in the switch.
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    Lol is all I have to say

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    What were they doing sitting in a classroom with a loaded gun anyway?
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    I'm in favor of gun control -- I think every citizen should have control of a gun.
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    She didn't look like a hog did she?

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    My thoughts exactly. And here's the REALLY weird part - I read somewhere else that the class was taking place in a private home...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    She didn't look like a hog did she?
    I laughed out loud when I read this.
    I'm in favor of gun control -- I think every citizen should have control of a gun.
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    If we had more gun legislation this would never have happened.

    That's what the liberals think anyways.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by smolck View Post
    If we had more gun legislation this would never have happened.

    That's what the liberals think anyways.....
    Yep, further proof that those guns are just plain evil!
    Oh alack and alas, what are we to do? They're everywhere, those evil guns!
    Rats!
    It could be worse!
    I suppose

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    The teacher left the room. They took the opportunity to fool around. He was running his hand up her skirt when he got excited and had a premature discharge. Angered, she grabbed the pistol and shot him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmacque View Post
    What were they doing sitting in a classroom with a loaded gun anyway?
    Exactly. What's the point? You're not going to intentionally fire in the room, so why bother with live rounds? Use dummy rounds if you want to demonstrate cycling the action. Loading a gun with live rounds in a classroom has no upside and plenty of downside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smolck View Post
    If we had more gun legislation this would never have happened.

    That's what the liberals think anyways.....
    And incidents like this are great fodder for them. We are shooting ourselves in the foot (!) with this kind of carelessness.

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