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This is a discussion on Driving into mobs or crowds when threatened. within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by farronwolf There are specific rules in Texas regarding pedestrians and how they are to move along or across roadways. Being a mob ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by farronwolf View Post
    There are specific rules in Texas regarding pedestrians and how they are to move along or across roadways. Being a mob in the middle of the street disrupting traffic isn't in the rules. Attacking or otherwise threatening drivers in their vehicles is not allowed either.

    If you are in the mob and blocking someones attempt to flee that mob, you are guilty. Blowing the horn and letting them know you are coming through is plenty of warning. Don't do stupid things and you don't have to deal with the consequences, so stay away from mobs if you value your health.
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    That is a good question, I would think: lay on the horn and move slowly until your path is clear, then accelerate, if they start breaking your windows or shooting then you may have to step on it.
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    It would be a safe bet mobs can't read or write, so I wouldn't worry about them getting your license plate number. They don't have the ability to independently reason or express empathy. They ape those they are surrounded by. Even getting caught on video, I can't see a jury convicting anyone trying to escape a potentially deadly attack, less Kalifornia of course.
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    It's one of those things you'd have to play by ear, but if the only way out was through the crowd I wouldn't hesitate to lay on the horn and start moving. Especially if my wife was with me.
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    They may not be able to read or write, but rest assured the scumbags have their stolen....er...I mean legally obtained.... Iphones and are going to be videoing you for their viewing pleasure later, and that video will be turned over to the police later when poor innocent thug # 5 becomes your hood ornament.

    Being caught in a flash mob is rare, but driving down a street and running into a huge crowd in the street playing street ball or just partying is not unusual in certain areas of Austin. If possible, see it ahead, back up and turn around rather than try to push through.

    That said, if you are trapped and having bottles or rocks thrown or people are pounding on the windows trying to break them, I agree, blare the horn, hit the brights and plow forward slow at first. If they refuse to get out of the way or become more violent, start increasing speed. At that point there is not a jury in the world (and most prosecutors) that will not agree that you were immediately in fear of serious bodily injury or death if you did not begin to "use the car as a weapon." If you stop, you could die.

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    I think you would be called on to answer for your actions. There is a difference between hurting the guy trying to break in your window, and hitting the 50 people in front of you who may or may not wish you harm.

    I think the legal ramifications would be impacted by the crowd itself. If we're talking Reginald Denny I'd say you're ok to run people over. If we're talking those Occupy idiots throwing bottles then I think you'd be in serious trouble when the media says you "cut down a young college student who was demonstrating peacefully to help the poor" or some such bull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barstoolguru View Post
    The general consensus is if there are people causing trouble and you are with them you by association are just as guilty so we can assume that if someone in a mob is causing trouble and someone in the mob gets hurt from someone retreating to safety it would fall under the same ruling
    ^^^ I'm in this camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paaiyan View Post
    It's one of those things you'd have to play by ear, but if the only way out was through the crowd I wouldn't hesitate to lay on the horn and start moving. Especially if my wife was with me.
    I have thought this one over and I agree with you. If I fear for my safety and my family"s...they better move or my car will move them. Just because it is a car doesn't mean you have to let them attack you. A "mob" means you are severely out numbered. College student? I believe there are a few of them to fear too. Makes no difference to me. I am not going to ask for their Student Union card. That being said I would do anything to avoid such a area, but in this day and age...one can't always do that.
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    if I get a mob of rock throwing punks in front to my truck a reach down and put this in my 8 track player and step on the gas


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    I would have gone with the Video from Apocalypse Now myself. Now I'm going to have to look for some huge speakers to mount on my ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barstoolguru View Post
    if I get a mob of rock throwing punks in front to my truck a reach down and put this in my 8 track player and step on the gas
    I'll see your "Ride of the Valkyries" and raise you an "O Fortuna at 180".
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlr1m View Post
    I would have gone with the Video from Apocalypse Now myself. Now I'm going to have to look for some huge speakers to mount on my ride.

    Michael
    I couldn't find one that would fit in my 8 track player ; bad enough I had to tape over my copy "Tom Jones Delilah"....lol

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    It was one of the first posts, but I think still the best. I agree with Yoda.
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    I don't think most are talking about hitting the group at 50 and accelerating. I think that you need to continue forward motion until you clear the group, after all they are called "bumpers" right. If things get worse and windows start shattering and people are grabbing then it is time to hit for distance and all bets are off. Like I said in another thread the only way I am stopping is if enough rioters err misguided souls get stuck under my truck to lift the wheels off the ground.

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    In a violent mob, it's either flight or fight. Most likely end up losing if staying put to fight.

    Self preservation is stepping on the accelerator. I think all sense of civility is lost in a violent riot or mob. Slow moving is risky because your tires can be slashed by a small knife or punctured by a sharp screwdriver/icepick very easily.

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